Jess a.k.a Mahogany Curls responds to Curlynikki drama

Subscribe said:

This is what I'm going off of. Sundial is the parent company.

By the second year, their hard work came to fruition when they formed Sundial Creations and Nubian Heritage, with Richelieu acting as Founder and CEO, and Nyema, as President and COO. The company has grown and bloomed, and now Nubian Heritage products are sold all over the world.

Sundial Creations makes SM!!!!!!

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Subscribe said:

Go to Sundial Facebook page. Also Google Sundial and Shea Moisture in the same search.

Sundial is the parent company, who is owned by....

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Froreal3 said:

Sent from my Snow White Frost Galaxy S4 using LHCF

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Mz.MoMo5235 said:

I'm just as lost man

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Subscribe said:

This is what I'm going off of. Sundial is the parent company.

By the second year, their hard work came to fruition when they formed Sundial Creations and Nubian Heritage, with Richelieu acting as Founder and CEO, and Nyema, as President and COO. The company has grown and bloomed, and now Nubian Heritage products are sold all over the world.

Sundial Creations makes SM!!!!!!

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Mz.MoMo5235 said:

So they are black?

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Zedster said:

I did find some free info on the company through CorporationWiki, which gets its info from a U.S. crediting agency (Dun & Bradstreet). However, it lists the company name as "Sundial Fragrances & Flavors Inc." This may be a holdover name from when it was first created, since the company seems to go by Sundial Brands LLC. Here's what I found:

http://www.corporationwiki.com/New-York/Amityville/sundial-fragrances-flavors-inc/61718110.aspx

Nyema S. Tubman
Chief Financial Officer, Owner

Michael Tobin
Chief Technology Officer, Chief Information Officer

Richelieu Dennis
President, Chief Executive Officer

Mary Dennis
Treasurer, Accountant

Nyema, is listed as the owner. Here's a link to their pictures:
http://sundialbrands.com/founders.html

You can make your own conclusions about whether they are Black.

Hopefully this will end all the confusion. It's been rather silly and disappointing.

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Mz.MoMo5235 said:

So they are black?

Man! We need a better way to identify our own peoples businesses! I bet $3 Koreans, Indians, and other groups dont have this hard of a time verifying each other's businesses. Ijs

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cwmarie said:

In this case, I didn't think it was hard to confirm. The first result in Google tells us who the founders and CEO is/are. All were black.

I'm not sure why that particular poster wasn't convinced. The very article she posted named two black men.

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shawnyblazes said:

I follow Nubian Heritage and Sheamoisture on Instagram.

I dont think they are getting rid of NH because they are coming out with new products left and right. It seems SM is the more popular one so that website went up first but NH should be getting a website as well.

You can even call Sundial yourself and order older products. I do , for the SM leave in conditioner. All products that I get from the BSS are still being made with updated lot numbers, expiration dates , etc...

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pattyr5 said:

I'm not hating on no white people with my thoughts or feelings when I say...they need to stay in their lane. That girl Water Lily has nice curls and all, but she had no business thinking that she was like those previously featured on Curly Nikki. And like so many before her, Nikki simply sold out. Call it business, call it whatever but damn near all the bloggers that threw their hat in on the subject, sold out too. White people have plenty of magazines, websites, groups and the like to discuss their hair woes. In my not so humble opinion, it was a calculated move. Their is an unprecedented movement in the hair care industry where black business is edging out white corporate conglomerates...you better believe they don't like it. They don't want to fight small black companies for shelf space. So you get white people in the mix with the " a curl is a curl" mantra and all the "hair is hair" sayings and soon everyone will be buying all the Loreal and Alberto Culver products again the way they want it.

if the bloggers want to be inclusive with white women, then let them but we BLACK people should unite and leave them behind and let them learn how much white women are willing to support them. This kind of crap will go on and on and on until ALL blacks stand together on the principle that blacks need to own and have something of our own. When we are a strong united front, then at that point anybody else can be let in, but for now black MUST COME FIRST!!!!

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divya said:

Guess I've missed plenty. Would someone point me to the origin of all of this? What happened?

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Mz.MoMo5235 said:

Cn featured a "natural" white girl on her page, some folk are ok with it, others arent. The ones who arent expressed why the natural hair movement and curly hair movement are two separate things. People started caping for becky. More people got mad... Then I dont know what happened but we got on black owned businesses. Then went back and forth about who owned shea moisture. And now its just a bunch of confused people (including my self) posting. Thats it o_o

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Foxglove said:

Things didn't get bad until Becky started insulting BW and admitted she was trolling for clicks and CN defended her instead of her core readers who got her where she is in the first place

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