Reinventing21
Spreading my wings
Where I live, the kids in the black schools are more united. The white priveleged schools though, the whites and non- whites are viscious.
I don't know if race matters. Some children are cruel and vicious no matter what the race.
And if your black child is truly a minority is a school full of whites, what makes you think that the bullying would be less traumatic for them than if it was coming from black children?
No offense but you definitely have not been around to make that conclusion. I've been around and I can personally say you are wrong. Dead wrong with a double meaning. It may depend on location but again you have to expand to know some things.This is why I will never have my kids attend an all black or majority black school. Yes whites bully too but I have seen the most disorderly conduct, fighting and bullying on the busses and at schools with the majority black kids. The black kids will talk about your hair, shoes, clothes, and everything. While the white kids can wear pajamas to school with uncombed hair and no one says shi*.
Poverty and lower educational standards at the black schools are other reasons.
Bingo. Now you are getting it. You just haven't been around that kind of standard.have higher standards, higher GPA's, more parental involvement, and more opportunities.
No offense but you definitely have not been around to make that conclusion. I've been around and I can personally say you are wrong. Dead wrong with a double meaning. It may depend on location but again you have to expand to know some things.
What did you say about white and Asian student? I would need to talk to you on the phone lol. It's too much. I know of schools where the black students talked about hair and clothes (because the culture or parent taught them to not go out in public a certain way) and I know of all black school (with maybe a sprinkle of Asian students) that taught the children to not pick on students. As for the majority white school, unless it was a private school (and sometimes it did not matter), it was the same if not worse because not only bullying was going on but children were sneaking (?) in guns and hard drugs and alcohol. How many majority black schools do you know that do that? Again it depends on location for that problem. You may know some. So that is why I say it depends on location.No offense taken.
Dead wrong about what and which conclusion?
It does depend on location but in many locations I am right from what I see. so please expound on what you see since you have been around.
What did you say about white and Asian student? I would need to talk to you on the phone lol. It's too much. I know of schools where the black students talked about hair and clothes (because the culture or parent taught them to not go out in public a certain way) and I know of all black school (with maybe a sprinkle of Asian students) that taught the children to not pick on students. As for the majority white school, unless it was a private school (and sometimes it did not matter), it was the same if not worse because not only bullying was going on but children were sneaking (?) in guns and hard drugs and alcohol. How many majority black schools do you know that do that? Again it depends on location for that problem. You may know some. So that is why I say it depends on location.
Ouch! Are we talking about the USA?Yes I know lots of Asian and white students cheat to get high gpa's and test scores. BUT overall they are kicking the black students behinds in Stem, finance and entrepreneurship.
Again it depends on where you are. Are you black? Do you wish you were white or Asian? It takes one person to change their outlook. It will be a cold day in August before I allow myself to defeat myself like that. It has to start somewhere. Build yourself up lady and have hope. Your purpose is to change this way of thinking. Children absorb everything and they will pick up this feeling of self defeat to continue the cycle and make what you say come true.I've digressed from the topic of bullying I know. but I am sidetracked with the thought that the majority of black students will be a permanent underclass and then they have the nerve to bully each other.
Ouch! Are we talking about the USA?
Again it depends on where you are. Are you black? Do you wish you were white or Asian? It takes one person to change their outlook. It will be a cold day in August before I allow myself to defeat myself like that. It has to start somewhere. Build yourself up lady and have hope. Your purpose is to change this way of thinking. Children absorb everything and they will pick up this feeling of self defeat to continue the cycle and make what you say come true.
So you do not want to help or care? Is that what you are saying?But because no one else seems to be worried about them and people think black students, in most places are doing fine, now I no longer worry or care.
Yeah, I'm on the fence as to whether majority white schools are totally fine for most of our black children. The emphasis might be on academics and extra curriculars but what about the emotional toll on the black students?
I have been around educators all my life and some of them still hold preconceptions about minority students. When displaying behavior that is typical for a certain age, Bradley is seen as high spirited while Tyrone is disruptive. Barbara and Ming Lee get placed in the gifted classes automatically but teachers might not think to place LaToya in the class. Bradley gets the inside information on scholarships and grants to further his education, Tyrone is handed an booklet and told to look on his own. Parents still have to keep on top of teachers to ensure that their children also benefit from the 'quality' education that majority white schools offer. Teachers do have biases that prevent them from treating children the same even though there is little difference in their academic achievement.
It's great that some of the black children who go too these schools have parents who model academic achievement for them but what about the ones who don't? Is anyone advocating for them?
No I don't wish I was white or Asian. I just like the high standards they have for themselves and their children. That is what I wish black people as a group would have because it would make us greater than we are. BUT I don't see that in most or majority black communities, schools, and I only see it in small individual families/small communities that is sparsed across the US.
No, It takes more than one person to change their outlook, it actually takes multiple people to get some of these kids on the right direction because these kids are surrounded and immersed in dysfunction or low standards. So when they see that ONE individual that you speak of that is doing well or tries to guide them, they believe that individual is just different and smart, that ididividual is not their reality and what they see day to day every day so that ididividual's impact on these children will be nil.
My kids are good, because their dad and I are the individuals, that you speak of, in their lives. I expect high grades and for my kids to take the most challenging classes. Ds and his partner were two of only a trickle of black kids that competed or advanced in our district to the state competition in technology in Texas. This is why I say they are kicking black students behinds in stem.
It is the other black students that I see that I am worried about. But because no one else seems to be worried about them and people think black students, in most places are doing fine, now I no longer worry or care.
So you do not want to help or care? Is that what you are saying?