I have the devapoo I haven't used it though and now I never will. Sorry that happened @DarkJoy
@DarkJoy that is crazy how just the addition of one product can have such a negative impact. I hope it doesn't cause a setback. Please let us know how your save goes.
Can you talk about your wash day regimen? How do you use the SM Purification Masque on your wash day? I have the SM PM abut have only used it once. I think I like it but since I don't really have a regimen, not sure how to use it best. I used it as a prepoo before a CW or a shampoo but I can't remember right now which it was.
Thank you @Cruzankink.
Update: Yes! My save worked and only down 1/4 inch! No setback...just a hiccup I guess. lol
And no, it is NOT natural! I just took a closer look at the ingredients and have no idea what half that ish is. Found the ingredients online. Bolded = WTF is THAT?
Deva Curl No Poo Ingredients List
Have a look at Laueth-4!!! It's other chemical name is DIMETHICONE! This BS has cones! No freakin wonder my hear broke off!! It's manufactured by Dow-Corning. Link below. Cant believe this ish!
Water (Aqua, Eau), Cetyl Alcohol, Glycerin, Isopropyl Palmitate, Behentrimonium Chloride, Polyquaternium-7, Laureth-4, Vitis Vinifera (Grape) Seed Oil, Propylene Glycol, Mentha Piperita (Peppermint) Oil, Triticum Aestivum (Wheat) Peptide, Avena Sativa (Oat) Peptide, Glycine Soja (Soybean) Peptide, Melissa Officinalis Extract, Humulus Lupulus (Hops) Extract, Cymbopogon Schoenanthus Extract, Chamomilla Recutita (Matricaria) Extract, Rosmarinus Officinalis (Rosemary) Extract, Achillea Millefolium Extract, Cocamidopropyl Betaine, Menthol, Citric Acid, Diazolidinyl Urea, Iodopropynyl Butylcarbamate, Fragrance (Parfum)
Please note that behentrimonium chloride is actually toxic to human mucus membranse AND is used to kill algea so is not safe for groundwater.
Iodopropynyl Butylcarbamate--due to it's toxicity, is ILLEGAL in some countries---wtf?! I didn't research further than that... I'm too disgusted
Deva Curl all natural? Don't buy into the hype!
I don't see how its related to silicone unless I'm missing something even though it is toxic.Function/use(s): Surfactant - Emulsifying Agent; ANTISTATIC; MASKING
About LAURETH-4: Laureth-4 is a synthetic polymer composed of lauryl alcohol and PEG (polyethylene glycol). Due to the presence of PEG, this ingredient may contain potentially toxic manufacturing impurities such as 1, ... read more
Synonym(s): PEG-4 LAURYL ETHER; POLYETHYLENE GLYCOL 200 LAURYL ETHER; POLYOXYETHYLENE (4) LAURYL ETHER; TETRAETHYLENE GLYCOL DODECYL ETHER; 3,6,9,12-TETRAOXATETRACOSAN-1-OL; LAURYL ALCOHOL TRI (OXYETHYLENE) ETHANOL
@greenandchic, I found Laureth-4 on the Dow Corning website, who manufactures Laureth-4, and it lists and it lists it's other name as dimethicone. The link is in the PP. This is madness...
Thanks for chiming in @faithVA. I wouldn't suspect that it would have such a bad effect for all. My fickle hair is just...well... fickle! Lol
However, the bottle clearly states no silicones. It has dimethicone under a different name. That is an outright lie that misleads customers.
DarkJoy;16666097 I found Laureth-4 on the Dow Corning website said:@DarkJoy I don't mean to beat a dead horsebut I remember watching yt queen and CG disciple MahoganyCurls recent vdo expressing inconsistencies b/w Lorraine Massey CG philosophy and her DevaCurl products. Appartently Massey is introducing a hairspray that contains drying alcohol and some of her products contain castor oil which according to Massey are both 1st class tickets to hair hell. I personally find that no cones or poo, even low poo, has done wonders for my hair. Castor oil does not absorb into my hair well so I stay away from it. But I'm beginning to suspect that Massey does not practice what she preaches at least when it pertains to her products. The link for the vdo is below. Enjoy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCxOvFUB3zw
DarkJoy said:Thank you @Cruzankink.
Update: Yes! My save worked and only down 1/4 inch! No setback...just a hiccup I guess. lol
And no, it is NOT natural! I just took a closer look at the ingredients and have no idea what half that ish is. Found the ingredients online. Bolded = WTF is THAT?
Deva Curl No Poo Ingredients List
Have a look at Laueth-4!!! It's other chemical name is DIMETHICONE! This BS has cones! No freakin wonder my hear broke off!! It's manufactured by Dow-Corning. Link below. Cant believe this ish!
Water (Aqua, Eau), Cetyl Alcohol, Glycerin, Isopropyl Palmitate, Behentrimonium Chloride, Polyquaternium-7, Laureth-4, Vitis Vinifera (Grape) Seed Oil, Propylene Glycol, Mentha Piperita (Peppermint) Oil, Triticum Aestivum (Wheat) Peptide, Avena Sativa (Oat) Peptide, Glycine Soja (Soybean) Peptide, Melissa Officinalis Extract, Humulus Lupulus (Hops) Extract, Cymbopogon Schoenanthus Extract, Chamomilla Recutita (Matricaria) Extract, Rosmarinus Officinalis (Rosemary) Extract, Achillea Millefolium Extract, Cocamidopropyl Betaine, Menthol, Citric Acid, Diazolidinyl Urea, Iodopropynyl Butylcarbamate, Fragrance (Parfum)
Please note that behentrimonium chloride is actually toxic to human mucus membranse AND is used to kill algea so is not safe for groundwater.
Iodopropynyl Butylcarbamate--due to it's toxicity, is ILLEGAL in some countries---wtf?! I didn't research further than that... I'm too disgusted
Deva Curl all natural? Don't buy into the hype!
Also, laureth-4 works as a mild surfactant and since its an emulsion it's not supposed to build-up on the hair. Kind of like peg- modified cones which a lot of Curly Girls still use.
[USER=337891 said:Cruzankink[/USER];16690197]I posted this in the Komaza Hair Analysis thread. I thought I'll share it here as well.
Did my analysis yesterday w/ Jenn. Unfortunately, my analysis may not have provided a true hair status since I did not submit a sufficient hair sample for her to see my main concern which were my fried ends.
Hair Condition: Jenn said I had normal to low porosity fine hair (I always thought it was medium thickness). She said I had soft hair w/ a very defined curl pattern. (Thanx CG) From my sample she only saw 2 indications of heat damage which was a hair bubble (caused by using heat when hair isn't completely dry) and a damage shaft also caused by heat. The ends in my sample all looked freshly cut w/ no damage. Huh?! I told her that I haven't cut my hair since early June and I feel that my ends are heat damaged from the BKT. But she didn't see that so on my 3 month followup I'm gonna give them more hair in my sample to analyze. My hair follicle was fatter than my shaft thus no evidence of hair loss. Everything else looked pretty good.
Regimen/Products: She stressed that I should wash my hair at least once a week w/ low poo. She described CW as washing your face w/ lotion. I told her that poo, even low poo, dries and frizzes my hair. Her concern was ensuring that my scalp was cleansed properly. So she recommended instead of CWing after my coconut oil pre poo to use a low poo mainly on my scalp which would minimize any adverse effects. I'm gonna try her suggestion but if I see frizzing I'm gonna switch to a cleansing conditioner. She said that my weekly DC w/ quinoa protein is working out and to continue this part of my regimen. Like many of you, she said not to use more than 2 leave-in products at a time - moisturizer and sealant. Since I have fine normal to low porosity hair to use a lighter leave in.
Heat Advisory: I told Jenn eventually I want to use heat but sparingly. She recommended low heat considering I had fine hair and to use a heat protectant w/ silicone. 250-280 degrees would be enough to straighten w/ minimal damage. My Izunami is gonna be glued to 250.
Action Plan: This weekend I gonna cut what I feel are remnants of heat damage from my BKT. I'll try her recommendations on leave-ins and weekly low poo washes. Hopefully in 3 mo I'll have better results.
^^^^^^so is cowashing bad.
^^^^^^so is cowashing bad.
Does that apply to using the cleansing conditioners as well?
[USER=337891 said:Cruzankink[/USER];16692849]@The Princess Jenn's concern w/ CW is the scalp not the hair. I didn't interpret her advice as CW being bad but that my scalp needs to be cleansed and CW does not clean the scalp properly. I believe that's why she recommended that I restrict my low pow wash to my scalp/roots (which is difficult considering I have a TWA). But I'll try.