2018 Curlyproverbz-inspired Regimen Challenge

Thanks for the add @YvetteWithJoy. I like this thread because the focus is on how Curly Proverbz uses Ayurveda in her routine. It makes Ayurveda hair practices so much easier.

Jetblackhair said:

Thanks for the add @YvetteWithJoy. I like this thread because the focus is on how Curly Proverbz uses Ayurveda in her routine. It makes Ayurveda hair practices so much easier.

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You're more than welcome. And thank you for that feedback. Helpful!

ElevatedEnergy said:

@fifigirl Oops it wasn't this thread...it was the CP oil thread. Let me see if I can dig it up.

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Thanks sis.....i saw the post and will watch the video!

kxlot79 said:

I’d suggest firstly that if your issue is a consistency one, you can adjust the volume of liquid in your henna mix. Make it more a thick paste and then it’s more creamy once you add VO5 to it. You could also adjust the proportion of henna and conditioner for this.
For myself, on GP, I only use my cheapie silicone-free conditioners for my henna glosses. And while I recommend what I’ve used and enjoyed results with, you know companies are forever changing their ingredients so double check your bottle before use/purchase. Any conditioner you’ve used before and was more good than bad is a good candidate for henna glosses imo, of course the better it is, the better your gloss.

-Suave Coconut
-Suave Strawberry
-Sally’s GVP Conditioning Balm
-Tresseme Perfectly Undone
-Tresseme Naturals (Silicone Free) is still available in my area

That’s four I can think of off the top of my head. Maybe others will chime in! HTH!

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Thank you! I will try one of the conditioners you suggested.

Stopped past the Indian store and grabbed the following:
-henna
-neem
-alma
-rose petal
-brahmi

I also picked up peppermint essential oil and JBCO.

I just need to grab some msm for my oil. I had a a terrible headache and was getting impatient trying to find it in rite aid.

I'm going to mix a henna gloss in my DC today and sit under the dryer for my normal 30 min.

I also plan to make the tea some time this weekend

weavepat said:

There are curry leaves in the CS henna blend. When I brewed the tea, I kept smelling something spicy but couldn't place it. Between the curry and the fenugreek I don't think I'll use this for leave in applications.

I'll try adding vanilla or maybe some citrus but it just seems like a funky mess waiting to happen

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Update: This tea smelled the strongest when it was first brewed, but I left it to steep for a day and the smell is definitely more subdued now. I've only used it on my scalp. Even on the length once it's layered with my other hair products, I doubt I'll be able to smell it.

I plan on making a spritz of tea and greg juice. I have about half an ounce left of a sample, so I'll mix a small batch to see if I need to add a preservative or not. If I keep my batches small I shouldn't need one.

Ayurvedic gloss bars

Using ratios based on CP's henna and rose gloss tutorial. Loosely following her original recipe gave me 7 gloss bars so I doubled it hoping for at least 12.

I melted down:

135 g cocoa butter
40 g mango butter
40 g bacuri butter
30 g macadamia oil
20 g argan oil
20 g avocado oil
20 g grapeseed oil
20 g castor oil
20 g abyssinian oil



To this I sifted then added 75g each of:

Some old henna blend I had
Zenia herbal henna
Cornerstone Skin henna
Cassia
Sedr



The mix was as thick as brownie batter. I thinned it out with coconut and olive oils until I could easily pour the mixture into molds. It yielded 14 gloss bars so I won't need to make more until June.

weavepat said:

Ayurvedic gloss bars

Using ratios based on CP's henna and rose gloss tutorial. Loosely following her original recipe gave me 7 gloss bars so I doubled it hoping for at least 12.

I melted down:

135 g cocoa butter
40 g mango butter
40 g bacuri butter
30 g macadamia oil
20 g argan oil
20 g avocado oil
20 g grapeseed oil
20 g castor oil
20 g abyssinian oil

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To this I sifted then added 75g each of:

Some old henna blend I had
Henia herbal henna
Cornerstone Skin henna
Cassia
Sedr

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The mix was as thick as brownie batter. I thinned it out with coconut and olive oils until I could easily pour the mixture into molds. It yielded 14 gloss bars so I won't need to make more until June.

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Wow look at that chocolate delishness. I don't know much about gloss bars. Off the google

Made my ayurvedic shea butter mixture tonight. Can't wait to use it!

keranikki said:

I'm still steeping my new batch of oil. It's not as dark as I would like it. I made a bigger batch since both my husband and I use it. I'm down to last little bit of CP oil though, so this new batch may not be able to steep any longer.

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If you want your oil darker, steep it slowly in a crock pot with the lid on. Or, you can use a pan of hot water on top of a stove on a low flame. Be careful and keep a watchful eye if you do the later, because you don't want the water to boil out. If it does, don't add water. Remove the jar, add water, let the water get warm then place your jar in the water and let it continue to steep.

Doing it this way makes the oil very potent. Stir your contents every so often. Trust me...it works because I had my install redone on Nov. 7th and I already have one inch of new growth and it's very soft.

YvetteWithJoy said:

Yes. And yay!: I can't wait to see your pics!

Someone has asked me to merge this challenge into the OTHER ayurveda hair thread because the overlap is too great.

I'll do so! Hopefully that thread's creator will create a 2018 thread around the last week in December. Whenever she does, I'll tag everyone in this thread so we can all join.

If she doesn't create a new thread by January 7, I'll just go ahead and recreate this thread and we'll keep doing our own thing in our own thread. In that case, I'll create a new thread with "2018" in the title and link back to this one.

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Thank you, Yvette. You have such a nice disposition about you. I like reading your posts. In fact, this thread is awesome and to all of the women who have participated have given some excellent ideas. I would love to keep this going well into 2018. I hardly ever commit to anything. The wealth of information on this site is the reason why I will always be a member of LHCF. The sistas on this board ROCK!! I can't wait to remove this install and give my hair a break to make my own Ayurvedic infused shea butter and tea.

I think I'm going to invest in the new Kitchenaid Mixer as a gift to self for Xmas in order to make my own butter. Wait, lemme rephrase that. HUBBY will invest in the new mixer....chile....

ThatJerseyGirl said:

Thank you, Yvette. You have such a nice disposition about you. I like reading your posts. In fact, this thread is awesome and to all of the women who have participated have given some excellent ideas. I would love to keep this going well into 2018. I hardly ever commit to anything. The wealth of information on this site is the reason why I will always be a member of LHCF. The sistas on this board ROCK!! I can't wait to remove this install and give my hair a break to make my own Ayurvedic infused shea butter and tea.

I think I'm going to invest in the new Kitchenaid Mixer as a gift to self for Xmas in order to make my own butter. Wait, lemme rephrase that. HUBBY will invest in the new mixer....chile....

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@ThatJerseyGirl, thank you so much for your words. They mean so very, very much. I'm cherishing them!

at the last part of your post. Ha!

I've decided to go head and continue our thread here. There are several, good enough reasons. I'll just make sure to highlight the other, two, overlapping threads.

Hi, all.

I've decided that for 2018 we'll keep our own CurlyProverbz/Ayurveda Regimen Challenge thread.

If it doesn't make sense to do so, then we can learn that over the course of 2018.

I don't mind managing the 2018 thread of ours, but if anyone else wants to do it solo or with me, you're more than welcome.

In 2018 I plan to insert little (optional) mini challenges that are peaceful and helpful and not cumbersome or complicated.

Example mini challenge ideas I've had:

• Share and comment on your favorite recipe mini challenge
• Organize and label your powders, oils, and containers mini challenge
• Share and discuss the most helpful (in your opinion) ayurvedic video, book, blog post, article, etc. mini challenge
• Scalp massage with the-oil-of-your-choice mini challenge
• Two-week water drinking mini-challenge (privately to yourself compare your before and after makeup-free photo; feel free to share with us)
• Pause and assess your DIY recipe(s) mini challenge (type them up, think them through, get feedback from here if you like, etc.)
• Etc.

This is one reason I want to keep our own thread.

Another reason is: This is JUST ME, but I need my activities to have a laidback feel, since my personality is intense. I'd like to keep a thread that is VERY chill: Anyone can lurk, lurkers can post questions especially if it helps a person or child with their hair, post as you can--no stress, join the mini challenges only if you feel like it, make any suggestions you feel will enhance the thread or our experience, etc.

I don't want it to have the feel of having too many rules or anything. Let's just relax, uplift, enjoy each other, and retain and soften our hair.

@YvetteWithJoy can I join in 2018? I want to wait until then so I can use up some things in my product stash first and start fresh. I'm also still going through Curly Proverbz videos to decide what powders to buy.

uofmpanther said:

@YvetteWithJoy can I join in 2018? I want to wait until then so I can use up some things in my product stash first and start fresh. I'm also still going through Curly Proverbz videos to decide what powders to buy.

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Absolutely! Take your time. Can't wait to have you.

In case it wasn’t posted before, here’s a vid on 4 of CP’s recommended clay wash recipes. I wanted to type the recipes out but couldn’t copy/paste so I just took a screenshot.
ETA: you may skip to 3:39 for when the recipes start

So this post is a TESTIMONIAL!!! If any of you have/remember the originally SM Purification Masque, that was my JAM. Well, I only have 3 jars left and I’ve been sorta kinda hoarding it because of SM’s shenanigans. Long story short, I really enjoy the benefits, texture, and results of that product but I’m done with the shenanigans and have been getting to making an Ayurvedic version of that product.
I used recipe #1 as my base and then made a few tweaks of my own. I added about 1/4c of Giovani Smooth As Silk, Bentonite clay, CP oil, neem tea, Australian Pink Clay, and 2 tbsp of premixed henna. Ohmmgee. Application was pretty tidy, consistency was smooth and creamy. And I left it in about 4 hours under a plastic cap and wool hat while I did errands. When I rinsed...
So elongated, detangled, strong, soft, and VERY little shedding!
Definitely a new staple. Has the potential to reach HG status with some tweaks.
I still followed up with a moisturizing DC though (because of the henna) and twisted my hair up in 8 twists. I’m sooo looking forward to my next wash day because I doubled the recipe and will be using the same batch in a few days.

kxlot79 said:

View attachment 417773 In case it wasn’t posted before, here’s a vid on 4 of CP’s recommended clay wash recipes. I wanted to type the recipes out but couldn’t copy/paste so I just took a screenshot.
ETA: you may skip to 3:39 for when the recipes start

So this post is a TESTIMONIAL!!! If any of you have/remember the originally SM Purification Masque, that was my JAM. Well, I only have 3 jars left and I’ve been sorta kinda hoarding it because of SM’s shenanigans. Long story short, I really enjoy the benefits, texture, and results of that product but as done with the shenanigans and have been getting to making an Ayurvedic version of that product.
I used recipe #1 as my base and then made a few tweaks of my own. I added about 1/4c of Giovani Smooth As Silk, Bentonite clay, CP oil, neem tea, Australian Pink Clay, and 2 tbsp of premixed henna. Ohmmgee. Application was pretty tidy, consistency was smooth and creamy. And I left it in about 4 hours under a plastic cap and wool hat while I did errands. When I rinsed...
So elongated, detangled, strong, soft, and VERY little shedding!
Definitely a new staple. Has the potential to reach HG status with some tweaks.
I still followed up with a moisturizing DC though (because of the henna) and twisted my hair up in 8 twists. I’m sooo looking forward to my next wash day because I doubled the recipe and will be using the same batch in a few days.

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Awwwww, sookie sookie now!

I never got to try the original recipe SM purification mask. Annnnnnd, the one pink clay mask I tried on my hair was AMAZEBALLS.

Nice "work," congrats, and thanks for sharing.

Do you know how many people want a dupe of that original formulation?!??

I'm hype!

Wasn’t it that Naturelle Grow Pink Clay DC? I think I saw your response and I was like “Yup! That was some voodoo!” Buttttttt I think it was $14? Plus shipping. Ugh. I’m kinda over having to buy conditioner offline. And while I still try to support small, Black woman owned business, I’m just over the PJ thing and more towards the mindset of stop being lazy and make whatever I can make a decent dupe of. So with all my experience of conditioners and clays, I figured the active ingredient to that voodoo formulation was the pink clay. And I do believe I was right. Because I bought some and have been secretly experimenting with it since the summer.

Also, if I figure out something that even gets CLOSE to the SM PM, I’ll have y’all PM me for the recipe

YvetteWithJoy said:

Awwwww, sookie sookie now!

I never got to try the original recipe SM purification mask. Annnnnnd, the one pink clay mask I tried on my hair was AMAZEBALLS.

Nice "work," congrats, and thanks for sharing.

Do you know how many people want a dupe of that original formulation?!??

I'm hype!

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kxlot79 said:

Wasn’t it that Naturelle Grow Pink Clay DC? I think I saw your response and I was like “Yup! That was some voodoo!” Buttttttt I think it was $14? Plus shipping. Ugh. I’m kinda over having to buy conditioner offline. And while I still try to support small, Black woman owned business, I’m just over the PJ thing and more towards the mindset of stop being lazy and make whatever I can make a decent dupe of. So with all my experience of conditioners and clays, I figured the active ingredient to that voodoo formulation was the pink clay. And I do believe I was right. Because I bought some and have been secretly experimenting with it since the summer.

Also, if I figure out something that even gets CLOSE to the SM PM, I’ll have y’all PM me for the recipe

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Ha! Funny, chica! You might need to keep it top secret and start your line!

Yes, that was indeed it! I loved the elongating effects of that mask.

And I'm soooooooo with you. I just couldn't bring myself to over and over pay that price plus shipping.

I want to try Kindred Butters (Etsy) due to the raves and ingredients. But I know myself: I'm not going to want to keep paying shipping on top of the price.

I'll be joining in 2018!

I already do treatments and glosses, but in 2018 I plan to get into the butters and growth oils.

I actually have the CP gloss and tea from Belle Bar (gosh that was pricey). It was alright; I prefer my own mixes. Plus henna is too low on the list for my liking.

Soaring Eagle said:

I'll be joining in 2018!

I already do treatments and glosses, but in 2018 I plan to get into the butters and growth oils.

I actually have the CP gloss and tea from Belle Bar (gosh that was pricey). It was alright; I prefer my own mixes. Plus henna is too low on the list for my liking.

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Welcome!

And thanks for the info/feedback. Helpful!

YvetteWithJoy said:

Hi, all.
I've decided that for 2018 we'll keep our own CurlyProverbz/Ayurveda Regimen Challenge thread.[...]
I'd like to keep a thread that is VERY chill: Anyone can lurk, lurkers can post questions --no stress, join... if you feel like it, make any suggestions you feel will enhance the thread or our experience, etc.

I don't want it to have the feel of having too many rules or anything. Let's just relax, uplift, enjoy each other, and retain and soften our hair.

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All the above right there is very good to state. I think you will have lots and lots of participants in 2018.

I do not have pink clay. I have rhassoul and bentonite, but no pink. Is pink clay that magical? What makes the clay pink? Can rose powder or aloe vera powder mixed with the clays I have, give the same effect? TIA

keranikki said:

I do not have pink clay. I have rhassoul and bentonite, but no pink. Is pink clay that magical? What makes the clay pink? Can rose powder or aloe vera powder mixed with the clays I have, give the same effect? TIA

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I don't know. I don't have any pink clay either. I want some now.

keranikki said:

I do not have pink clay. I have rhassoul and bentonite, but no pink. Is pink clay that magical? What makes the clay pink? Can rose powder or aloe vera powder mixed with the clays I have, give the same effect? TIA

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Bentonite can be a bit clarifying and pink clay is more conditioning. Rhassoul is bomb but does leave build up over time. Hence the name “purification” for the SM masque. It’s not something you can use often.

1. @YvetteWithJoy I appreciate your decision, "and that's all I'll say about that." (Forrest Gump, lol)

2. All my Indian powders came the day before yesterday, but I'm really waiting on my active ingredients and such. I wanna formulate something!

3. I'm gonna make am ayurvedic 3-in-1 for SO (body wash, shampoo, and conditioner). The sweet spot for skin and hair, from what I've read, is between 5.5-6 ph.

4. I've been using my four ingredient growth oil for a few days, will start formulating teas when the rest of my actives arrive.

5. PSA: I worry about the lack of preservatives in your formulas (esp the tea spray!!!). Please consider preservatives. We don't want no bacteria-related set backs!

ThatJerseyGirl said:

If you want your oil darker, steep it slowly in a crock pot with the lid on. Or, you can use a pan of hot water on top of a stove on a low flame. Be careful and keep a watchful eye if you do the later, because you don't want the water to boil out. If it does, don't add water. Remove the jar, add water, let the water get warm then place your jar in the water and let it continue to steep.

Doing it this way makes the oil very potent. Stir your contents every so often. Trust me...it works because I had my install redone on Nov. 7th and I already have one inch of new growth and it's very soft.

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I may have to do this method. I almost did but decided to do my candle warmer method. That was a mistake as I was doing it during thanksgiving week and kept taking it off so it ended up not being as dark as I wanted. I thought it was fine but once I used the new applicator I had it didn't have any of the tingly goodness I like. I can't put that batch back in the crock pot as I already put essential oils and msm in the batch, so I'll just have to do another one. I will have to do this method as nice dark potent oil will be great for me.

I'll be joining the challenge in 2018. I'm glad this one will be a little less stringent than others but with great feedback.

I plan to make the shea butter mix but I have to get some more oils. I actually got the Zenia mix oils but I want my shea butter mix to be diy. I started to get another of the Jakeala one, but in the time shipping will take, I will have made multiples. I'm okay investing in me longterm. I'll get more shea butter and oils and get to whipping.

I was supposed to do a gloss this weekend but I decided to wait til I get my Red Raj. That gloss will be the first one I do without the mix powder blend of Napur or Zenia. I think I have every powder that is in those blends so I'll just mix my own.

I've been using my tea and plan to use it again today to hold me over from not having my gloss this week.

Went on and made another small batch of oil. Same recipe as before but this time added 2 tsp of fenugreek seeds. I also put it in a mason jar this time so I can shake randomly instead of stirring it. I heated some water in a pot and sticked the Mason jar in it and let it sit for an hour randomly shaking here and there. I made sure the water didn't get too hot. The oil is much darker than my last batch. I plan to infuse for 1 1/2 to 2 weeks while I use up this other oil.

If you’re not a clay stan, or aspiring mixtress, you’re probably not missing out on much. That being said, if you know your hair well and notice subtle differences (or not so subtle in some cases) of products, having an expansive collection would be beneficial. My recommendation would be to experiment with them 1 or 2 at a time, instead of launching into ingredients PJism...
For myself, I have a collection of 8+ clays and I have a rotation of them. I use them for face, body, and hair. I use them for detoxification, cleansing, and moisturization. I use them internally (the food grade ones) and externally.
For instance, I can tell the difference between calcium Bentonite clay and sodium Bentonite clay. Most people don’t pay that much attention to their hair or ingredients though.
I believe the composition of iron oxidation in the clay is what tinges it pink. Some pink clay formulations are a mix of white clay and red clay though. Australian pink clay... is quite different from all the others I’ve experienced. It’s quite high in silica, which may have something to do with its effects. I would say a step above in terms of moisturization and detangling in comparison to the other top 5. It’s a little pricier and harder to find reliable sources though so maybe not worth the hassle. Some people will find a shoddy distributor and blame the product which may not be that reliable. I got mine from a wholesaler.
I’ve used rose powder and aloe vera powder in Bentonite and rhassoul clay. All I can say is that the effect is different.
If you’re satisfied with your results so far, maybe just wait until you run out of your current stash to try pink clay out? There’s a few different varieties though.
Sorry for the novel! Lo
ETA: I’ve not gotten around to it but I’ve been meaning to test the pH of my most beloved products & formulations. I recently saw a video on how that may be the key to your hair’s happiness with certain things over others regardless of similar ingredients. And here’s a decent site with some basic info about differences in clays: https://www.nourishedlife.com.au/article/825809/difference-between-white-green-pink-clays.html

keranikki said:

I do not have pink clay. I have rhassoul and bentonite, but no pink. Is pink clay that magical? What makes the clay pink? Can rose powder or aloe vera powder mixed with the clays I have, give the same effect? TIA

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