vevster
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May do more harm than goodThis is the 3 rd article I’ve seen in the last few days that states resistance is short lived which means the vaccine may not be worth anything.
May do more harm than goodThis is the 3 rd article I’ve seen in the last few days that states resistance is short lived which means the vaccine may not be worth anything.
This is the 3 rd article I’ve seen in the last few days that states resistance is short lived which means the vaccine may not be worth anything. The scary thing is the patients in 2 of the articles I read reported a more severe case the second time around. They had few symptoms the first time and were in the moderate category the second time around. Moderate meaning very sick at home but no hospitalizations.
The scary thing is they have been telling and reporting how 20 somethings are usually symptomatic. But it could be that when they get reinfected they will have a more serious disease state the second time around.
That happened in Chicago... see this exactly why my kids will be at home... I have been there and done that with parents not giving a hoot. My kids ended up in the hospital because a parent had to go work.. I understand people gotta do what they gotta do, but it will not be at the expense of my family.
I have to sign waivers for rock climbing, outdoors clubs and sports saying that I won't sue if my kid dies during participation.
surely the schools will do temp checks upon entrance to school.
But, hey, her emails.
Kids die of the flu every year, which I also knew before enrolling them in school.^^^Yes, but those are once in a while activities. School should not be a place you can't merely freely breathe air without risking the life of you and your family.
I hear this is fairly common too.Yes but sadly some parents will administer fever reducing medication prior to dropping their child off or even going to work just to be able to bypass the temperature check.
Unless there’s a death waiver for the flu I don’t see how this is relevant.Kids die of the flu every year, which I also knew before enrolling them in school.
I’m not knocking it but temp checks do nothing for asymptomatic carriers who are the main ones transmitting the virus. It’ll keep the sickest out but “healthy” carriers will spread it to teachers and classmates.surely the schools will do temp checks upon entrance to school.
It's relevant because the risk of death is ever present.Unless there’s a death waiver for the flu I don’t see how this is relevant.
This isn’t motivated by the risk of getting ill. The schools are negligent in their reopening plans and this is an attempt to mitigate their risk of being sued.
Immunity from COVID 19 may only last a few months.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/13/health/covid-immunity-antibody-response-uk-study-wellness/index.html
It's relevant because the risk of death is ever present.
It's relevant because parents have always had the option to keep children with compromised immune systems home. My school system has been obligated since I don't know when to provide instruction for those children, whether they must be home or have extended stays at the hospital.
Waivers are now a thing because people have a greater expectation that safety is guaranteed and are more likely to sue. So yes, entities now have to make sure that people acknowledge that being around others carries the risk for transmission of viruses, which may turn out to be deadly. They can improve ventilation, install plexiglass, require masks and reduce density but they can't guarantee that little Johnny or Susie won't contract a virus, nor can they guarantee that Johnny or Susie won't be in the small number of children that dies.
In the same way a sports league can keep fields and courts up to standards and hire referees to enforce rules but they can't guarantee that your child won't be the one to get hit in just the right place to cause severe injury or death.
Schools can open all they want, it doesn't mean you have to send your children. School systems have posted their plans, some have video walk throughs showing the modifications they have made, I think every public school systems have board meetings available to watch on YouTube or their sites. They are given guidance by health departments (and state education departments too I believe)
Parents are free to look at everything and decide, no one is sending people with guns to drag children into schools.
Yikes. If true, I guess we can say goodbye to the herd immunity theory.
I must be an oddball because I have a lesser expectation that safety is guaranteed.people have a greater expectation that safety is guaranteed
^^ I do not want to go down the road again with comparing flu (&every other possible danger) to a global viral pandemic.
However, re " schools can open all they want , but doesn't mean you have to send your kids"...
That reasoning only considers the children.
For schools to run, however,a whole lot of adults have to be involved incl principals, assistant principals, secretaries, teachers, nurses, counselors, social workers, psychologists, paraprofessionals, substitute teachers, cafeteria workers, maintenance workers including regular building workers, outside emergency maintenance workers and others such as electricians & plumbers , volunteers including retired teachers and parents, parent coordinators, supervisors, security, librarians, accountants, speech pathologists etc.
This is why schools can't 'just open' safely during a pandemic.
I must be an oddball because I have a lesser expectation that safety is guaranteed.
I completely agree that the entire community is put at risk with children going back in class learning. The issue is so multifaceted.
A teacher was on tv last night was speaking about how special needs students cannot get the education they need at home due to their special circumstances.
It’s just messed up when all of this could have been avoided if the US had a true shut down in the spring time and national mask rules when we reopened. Now we are stuck in this purgatory of community spread.
I don’t think people expect a guaranteed safety. They just don’t want to walk into a situation where it is a forgone conclusion that it is unsafe to begin with.
Again, where are people being forced to send their kids?I don’t think people expect a guaranteed safety. They just don’t want to walk into a situation where it is a forgone conclusion that it is unsafe to begin with.
I mean in life, generally.I must be an oddball because I have a lesser expectation that safety is guaranteed.