Ask the stylist whatever you want!!

dontspeakdefeat

Hair Coach
Can I use plaits to protective style under a wig and how often should I detangle if I can use plaits in order to prevent matting ?
jasmyne14

That's perfectly fine. Should should be able to go up to 3-4 weeks without matting but make sure when you take down the plaits that you comb out all the shed hair before you shampoo.
 

mensa

Well-Known Member
Is there any way that I could do my own keratin complex protein treatment on my own hair? Can't find a stylist that doesn't know how to untangle my hair properly.:nono:

By the way, giving us all of this advice is very kind of you to do.

May you have long, thick, luxurious hair that flows down to your ankles.:yep:
 
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dontspeakdefeat

Hair Coach
Is there any way that I could do my own keratin complex protein treatment on my own hair? Can't find a stylist that doesn't know how to untangle my hair properly.:nono:

By the way, giving us all of this advice is very kind of you to do.

May you have long, thick, luxurious hair that flow down to your ankles.:yep:
mensa

You sure can do your own treatment. Just take your time while doing it. It is time consuming even for a stylist. Do you have a particular treatment in mind?

You are very welcome and thanks for the hair well wishes. That's too sweet!:yep:
 

mensa

Well-Known Member
Just the treatment that I have done every 4-6 months.

Would I do the whole strand of hair or just the new growth?

I know that the stylist used Keratin Complex. Would I buy the whole line?

TIA.
 

dontspeakdefeat

Hair Coach
Just the treatment that I have done every 4-6 months.

Would I do the whole strand of hair or just the new growth?

I know that the stylist used Keratin Complex. Would I buy the whole line?

TIA.
mensa

I would recommend only doing the newgrowth. I would suggest you buy the whole line because each product is formulated to work together.
 

bgsix

Well-Known Member
What is the best advice you would give to self-relaxers? What relaxer do you use on clients?
 

g.lo

Well-Known Member
@g.lo I believe this can be solved by making sure when you deep condition to massage your conditioner into the roots of the hair very well. You would be surprised at the amount of hair problems can be solved with better conditioning practices. Make sure to also detangle completely will the conditioner is still on your hair and shampoo and condition in sections.

Thanks, I will start using the relaxer method to apply my DC now.
 

MizzBFly

Well-Known Member
Thanks so much for this thread!

I want to have consistant texlax results and I am not sure how to do a strand test to guage the amount of time the relaxer should be left. I have read to test the patch behind the ear(which I cannot see well) use some shead hair but - how much?

Currently I add SAA and Roux to length beforehand & olive oil to nugrowth or relaxer.

Is there a texturizer that is Lye based?

Thanks for your time :)
 

divachyk

Instagram: adaybyjay
What's a good natural clarifier / chelator? Elucence is great but sometimes tangles my hair.

ETA: I see you recommended Paul Mitchell Clarifying upthread. Is this the one? Would you agree it also chelates?


Shampoo Three®
REMOVES CHLORINE AND IMPURITIES
Basics: Removes dulling build-up from hair.
Benefits: Strengthens strands and minimizes future
build-up.
Bonus: Helps prevent swimmers’ “chlorine green.”
Details:
Deep cleansers help remove chlorine, iron, minerals and medication from hair.
 
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dontspeakdefeat

Hair Coach
What is the best advice you would give to self-relaxers? What relaxer do you use on clients?
bgsix

Don't worry about getting your hair bone straight. You can use the flat iron to make it straight and silky. Make sure to rinse the relaxer out completely before neutralizing, even if that means 10 minutes or more. Leave the neutralizer on for a few minutes on the final shampoo. I usually shampoo 3 times with neutralizer and then follow up with a moisturizing shampoo. Neutralizers are drying.

Make sure you base the scalp really well. This is a must for me. I don't care if it takes extra time.

If you are slow at applying you relaxer and need more time, do the half and half method relaxing the back half first and then the front half.

I like to apply conditioner over the entirety of the head of hair to protect previously relaxed hair and to provide a buffer in processing so the hair won't come out bone straight.


I use Mizani Butter Blends but I think my favorite is Nairobi. It's a little harder to come by though.
 

dontspeakdefeat

Hair Coach
Thanks so much for this thread!

I want to have consistant texlax results and I am not sure how to do a strand test to guage the amount of time the relaxer should be left. I have read to test the patch behind the ear(which I cannot see well) use some shead hair but - how much?

Currently I add SAA and Roux to length beforehand & olive oil to nugrowth or relaxer.

Is there a texturizer that is Lye based?

Thanks for your time :)
MizzBFly

You are welcome.

I would say that you can use shed hair. I have done that before. You well need probably about 200 test hairs because you are going to have to test various times. I think 50 hairs per test should work. Generally for texlaxing 8-10 minutes will produce good results but you have to work super fast. This does depend on your thickness and texture. Some people need less time than that. You may want to do it in 2-4 sections to give your self time to apply and smooth. Don't oversmooth though.

It's good that you buffer. That gives you a little more time as well.

Texturizer and relaxers are the same thing. Same chemical. It's just a mild relaxer left on for a shorter period of time.

Also keep in mind that using the shed hair for you strand testing will process a little slower because the heat from your scalp with not be there to aid in the process.
 

dontspeakdefeat

Hair Coach
What's a good natural clarifier / chelator? Elucence is great but sometimes tangles my hair.

ETA: I see you recommended Paul Mitchell Clarifying upthread. Is this the one? Would you agree it also chelates?


Shampoo Three®
REMOVES CHLORINE AND IMPURITIES
Basics: Removes dulling build-up from hair.
Benefits: Strengthens strands and minimizes future
build-up.
Bonus: Helps prevent swimmers’ “chlorine green.”
Details:
Deep cleansers help remove chlorine, iron, minerals and medication from hair.
divachyk

Yes. This one does chelate as well. Joico also makes a clarifying chelating shampoo.
 

MizzBFly

Well-Known Member
@MizzBFly

You are welcome.

I would say that you can use shed hair. I have done that before. You well need probably about 200 test hairs because you are going to have to test various times. I think 50 hairs per test should work. Generally for texlaxing 8-10 minutes will produce good results but you have to work super fast. This does depend on your thickness and texture. Some people need less time than that. You may want to do it in 2-4 sections to give your self time to apply and smooth. Don't oversmooth though.

It's good that you buffer. That gives you a little more time as well.

Texturizer and relaxers are the same thing. Same chemical. It's just a mild relaxer left on for a shorter period of time.

Also keep in mind that using the shed hair for you strand testing will process a little slower because the heat from your scalp with not be there to aid in the process.


Thanks for the tips:yep: but 50 shed hairs, each time - how is that done? :lol:

I currently use a Lye relaxer made from Sodium hydroxide which is more soft/gentle on my hair than the no-lye Calcium hydroxide.

If I was going to switch to a texturizer I would want to maintain using the main active ingredient Sodium Hydroxide so, I was wondering if you or any laides on here know for sure a Sodium hydroxide texturizer?

Thanks for the open dialogue- I've kept these questions in my head for such a long time and the WWW doesn't have the answer.
 

cutenss

Well-Known Member
Ok, so I guess that I am going to buy me some Joico, while they have some at TJMaxx, Ross, and Marshalls :look:

My question is: does products that have mineral and petroleum as top ingredients concern you? Or do you just use what works, regardless? Do you think those type ingredients get a bad "rep"?

Love this thread :yep:
 

divachyk

Instagram: adaybyjay
dontspeakdefeat, re: using conditioner as a buffer before a relaxer...

-do you put a light coating of conditioner where it soaks into the hair to the point it is not visible on the hair OR is the application heavy and visible on the hair?

I'm salon relaxed and trying to see how to pull this off. I always coat my hair with oils the night before my salon visit.

-what conditioner do you use for this?

-would any conditioner work OR are there special ingredients that must be present to be an effective buffer?
 

Saludable84

Better Late Than Ugly
Thanks for the tips:yep: but 50 shed hairs, each time - how is that done? :lol: I currently use a Lye relaxer made from Sodium hydroxide which is more soft/gentle on my hair than the no-lye Calcium hydroxide. If I was going to switch to a texturizer I would want to maintain using the main active ingredient Sodium Hydroxide so, I was wondering if you or any laides on here know for sure a Sodium hydroxide texturizer? Thanks for the open dialogue- I've kept these questions in my head for such a long time and the WWW doesn't have the answer.

Linange Shea but tee texturizer has sodium hydroxide

Sent from my iPhone using LHCF
 

serenity34

Active Member
I know I have a lot of questions and I thank you for answering them. I don't know if this has been answered yet but how often should hair be trimmed. I was told today every 6 weeks but I thought that was to frequent.
 

Relentless

Reinventing
:hiya: Hey DSD! This thread is a blessing.

I recently tried the long flexible bendable hair rollers. Do you feel it is okay to use for the hair. I like it, but my hair tends to feel a tad frizzy on the ends.

What would you recommend to use on the ends if anything?
 

dontspeakdefeat

Hair Coach
Ok, so I guess that I am going to buy me some Joico, while they have some at TJMaxx, Ross, and Marshalls :look:

My question is: does products that have mineral and petroleum as top ingredients concern you? Or do you just use what works, regardless? Do you think those type ingredients get a bad "rep"?

Love this thread :yep:
cutenss Nah, I just use what works. I am not really an ingredient person. Those products do get a bad rep but if I am using them on clients hair and their hair is thriving I don't stress over it! :drunk:
 

dontspeakdefeat

Hair Coach
@dontspeakdefeat, re: using conditioner as a buffer before a relaxer...

-do you put a light coating of conditioner where it soaks into the hair to the point it is not visible on the hair OR is the application heavy and visible on the hair?

I'm salon relaxed and trying to see how to pull this off. I always coat my hair with oils the night before my salon visit.

-what conditioner do you use for this?

-would any conditioner work OR are there special ingredients that must be present to be an effective buffer?
divachyk

I use a lot of conditioner. I don't really know how much I just go for it. (I'm a conditioner junkie!) Generally I use something creamy. You can just use your regular conditioner for this. Light protein conditioners work well.
 

dontspeakdefeat

Hair Coach
Thanks for the tips:yep: but 50 shed hairs, each time - how is that done? :lol:

I currently use a Lye relaxer made from Sodium hydroxide which is more soft/gentle on my hair than the no-lye Calcium hydroxide.

If I was going to switch to a texturizer I would want to maintain using the main active ingredient Sodium Hydroxide so, I was wondering if you or any laides on here know for sure a Sodium hydroxide texturizer?

Thanks for the open dialogue- I've kept these questions in my head for such a long time and the WWW doesn't have the answer.
MizzBFly

Just collect hair everyday when you comb your hair.

A texturizer is the same as a mild relaxer. It's just marketed differently. HTH:yep:
 

dontspeakdefeat

Hair Coach
I know I have a lot of questions and I thank you for answering them. I don't know if this has been answered yet but how often should hair be trimmed. I was told today every 6 weeks but I thought that was to frequent.
serenity34

You are welcome. I don't mind answering.

Hair should be trimmed on an as needed basis if you are actively growing your hair. If your moisture regimen is on point and your are retaining length well then you can go 3,4,6 or even 12 months without trimming. Usually the ends of your hair will start snagging when its time for a trim.
 

dontspeakdefeat

Hair Coach
:hiya: Hey DSD! This thread is a blessing.

I recently tried the long flexible bendable hair rollers. Do you feel it is okay to use for the hair. I like it, but my hair tends to feel a tad frizzy on the ends.

What would you recommend to use on the ends if anything?
Relentless

You are welcome. I love to help!!:grin: :grin:

Those roller are fine. Make sure to use end rollers for a smoother set. Add a little extra setting lotion or moisturizer to the ends as well.
 

klsjackson

Well-Known Member
I would like advice on doing a corrective relaxer. I was self relaxing and decided to go back to the salon last summer. My self relaxed parts are underprocessed.

My stylist initially said it would be okay and she didn't want to risk over processing my hair by doing a corrective, but now I have noticed breakage in the underprocessed areas. The breakage is only noticeable to me, because I know my hair. She looked at it and decided to treat it instead of doing a corrective.

This is my question: should I do or get another stylist to do the corrective or just treat the damaged areas and trim until it is gone? Also, the underprocessed areas are very dry! Can you recommend a moisture conditioner that detangles and has excellent slip. Thanks!!!
 

Smiley79

Well-Known Member
I'm a about a year and half into my natural journey, growing out a big chop. My hair is now in that in between phase, a little bigger than a TWA. I plan to get a protective style but I'm noticing that I may desperately need a trim because my ends are so bushy and fuzzy and ill-defined when I do twists. Should I do the trim before my protective style or after or does it not matter?
 

Ann816

Well-Known Member
Hi DSD:

Thanks again for this GREAT thread!!!!!

Can you please tell us the best methods/ products to use for a stiff/frizzy weave?

Thanks!
Ann
 
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