divya
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By Prayer and study, may the Holy Spirit/Ghost reveals the Eternal Spirit/Father through His Word/Son!
By prayer and study, He most certainly has and continues to do so.
By Prayer and study, may the Holy Spirit/Ghost reveals the Eternal Spirit/Father through His Word/Son!
@Alicialynn86 - where in the bible does it say that speaking unknown tongues is a prayer language?
And shouldn't prayer of that nature be done in private and not during a church service?
At the pentecostal churches I've visited, I've seen a mixture of people praying in an unknown tongue and people speaking in an unknown tongue... not speaking the gift of tongues as noted in the Bible.
Unfortunately some people FAKE it and just repeat what they hear other people say. I hate that about the church I went to from 14-18. It sounds like:
Sha-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-barra-ro-sah-tah-barack-obama-in-a-honda!
I do beleive some people really speak in tongues but I've never been a witness...
Yeah this is true. Which answers why you hear a lot of the people sounding the same Poohbear
I think it's another problem created by doing it in public, it's like people start competing.
I noticed that when I speak in tongues it sounds different than what I usually hear in those churches.
1st Cor. 14
2For he that speaketh in an unknown tongue speaketh not unto men, but unto God: for no man understandeth him; howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries.
Forgot to add this!
Thank you Iwanthealthyhair and hanna-light (I know this very popular belief),
But I think you are misunderstanding my question.
The Savior, the true vine, said : I do nothing of myself (Jn.8.28), All come from Abba Father, the husbandman.
I am not talking about whether or not He has a character, but what make her (blazingthru) or you believes that there is difference of characters.
There is just ONE life.
Unfortunately some people FAKE it and just repeat what they hear other people say. I hate that about the church I went to from 14-18. It sounds like:
Sha-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-barra-ro-sah-tah-barack-obama-in-a-honda!
I do beleive some people really speak in tongues but I've never been a witness...
Thanks @Health&hair28. I'm thinking of one church in particular that I visited. They sung like 4-5 songs back-to-back with no pause no break, and the majority of the church members started "speaking in tongues" to where it started getting louder and louder. Mixed in with the music, it almost sounded demonic because it kept going on and on with no control for a couple of hours. It was kinda scary and did not seem like the gift of the Holy Spirit in that church.
When Im praying and the presence of God is upon me my prayers turn into songs, if that makes sense (now that I think about it it probably doesnt ) and maybe thats why I hear tongues of the saints as music.
ETA this thread is hilarious
To your experience, Ive been in a church where prayer is taking place (like a shut in or something) and at a certain point the prayer shifts as in one accord and the saints are fiulled with tongues and it wasnt demonic to me at all, it was more of a heavenly sound and the presence of God would be so strong and thick (thats the only way I can describe it) it sounds literally like music to my ears. Ive never spoken in tongues personally but I was raised in a church so its not foriegn and it doesnt alarm me, and its crazy but I can tell when its of the Spirit and when its just a bunch of folks babbling although I admittedly am not an interpreter.
When Im praying and the presence of God is upon me my prayers turn into songs, if that makes sense (now that I think about it it probably doesnt ) and maybe thats why I hear tongues of the saints as music.
ETA this thread is hilarious
I know what you're talking about.. there's a lady in our church who breaks out in song; it's unlike any singing we hear in these parts..lol. I really don't know how to explain it but that you have to be there to hear her sing!
You're experience sounds a bit different than the one I mentioned.
See, I grew up in a baptist church so I never seen "speaking in tongues" in church until last year.
For a while people seen speaking in tongues as something that happen in the "bible days" as some would say. They shunned it and called it demonic, but now since some "Famous" preachers started speaking in tongues, people commercialize it now...which is still sad...they dont realize how precious it is, but they feel like if they go off in tongues, that makes them really anointed, which is a false misconception. What people dont know is you can be "annointed" and still on your way to hell, but thats another thread...
I think we focus too much on SELF-control...to be undone in his presence is a wonderful thing...
He doesn't always come all organized and quiet, sometimes he comes in like a mighty rushing wind...
^^wow, service that lasted from 11:00-7:00 ..that happened once at my church, church began at 10:30 and I think we were beginning to leave around 5:30 pm it wasn't planned but we ended up having a deliverance service and my Pastor ministered to everyone individually (we have a small church say 50-60 people) by the time as she ministered to me, I was besides myself she told me to forgive my mom for dying, I was all snotty up and on the floor, I didn't care who saw me...
@Poohbear
Nothing in church is supposed to be in a chaotic manner, and the gift of tongues is to be used in private. The exception is the rare occasion that someone brings a prophetic message in tongues and that needs to be done with only one person speaking and there needs to be an interpreter, otherwise there is no reason for it to be made public. There is also the gift of interpretation of tongues - which we are to ask for as well.
The gift of speaking in tongues in prayer is for our personal spiritual edification and it's the Holy Spirit interceding for us.
Romans 8:28
And the Holy Spirit helps us in our weakness. For example, we don't know what God wants us to pray for. But the Holy Spirit prays for us with groaning that cannot be expressed in words.
Which is why, although it's a good gift to have (they all are) it doesn't help the church as much as others.
1 Corinthians 14:2For if you have the ability to speak in tongues, you will be talking only to God, since people won't be able to understand you. You will be speaking by the power of the Spirit, but it will all be mysterious.
You should read 1 Corinthians 14
1 Corinthians 14
New Living Translation (NLT) (Emphasis mine)
My pastor interprets spoken tongues. There are many in our congregation who may pray to themselves in tongues, but only one person who speaks publicly in tongues, and there will be an interpretation to follow.
Paul is instructing them on how to keep order in the exercise of this gift. The fact that they were being disorderly does not mean that the gifts were false--they were simply out of order and needed to exercise their gifts properly. However, I would not judge someone that I simply hear praying in tongues if they are doing it quietly and to themselves like Paul says.
I do agree that there are a lot of counterfeits and a lot of learned patterns. Nevertheless, that ought not take away from our pursuit of God's authentic gifts.
See, THIS is what I would like to see in a church where speaking in tongues takes place.
nicola.kirwan - What type of church do you attend? And when a person speaks in tongues at your church, does it sound like the common utterances at other churches?
Here are some clips of speaking in tongues... are these genuine or not?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dG11J40cAA This one is similar (not the same) to the church I visited where it sounded demonic. The church I visited, there were MORE people babbling really loud and carrying on.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K08OKQJIwYw Two men praying in tongues
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SkLKJwzRlU A white woman preacher speaking in tongues mixed with English
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oE1GFsDAG3k&NR=1 Some black dude that says he speaks in tongues, scroll to 1:05
I took a second glance at your other post, and I think I may have gotten confused with your emphasis parts mixed in with the scriptures.@Poohbear
I would like to see someone interpret tongues too, as I've never seen it. But honestly most of the churches I see where tongues are spoken during service aren't concerned with interpretation and order.
I'm not really seeing how the NLT version has a different meaning than the KJV. I'm interpreting them the same way after reading both - I'm always cross referencing.
I don't think it's my place to say if others are genuine or not, but I can't stand when people record themselves speaking in tongues whether it's real or not.
@Poohbear
I would like to see someone interpret tongues too, as I've never seen it. But honestly most of the churches I see where tongues are spoken during service aren't concerned with interpretation and order.