Shea Growth And Retention Regimen 2019

What is the length barrier you would like to break through in 2019, with Shea butter's help?

  • Top of shoulder length

    Votes: 18 10.2%
  • Collar bone length

    Votes: 10 5.6%
  • Armpit length

    Votes: 18 10.2%
  • Between armpit and bra strap length

    Votes: 36 20.3%
  • Bra strap length

    Votes: 28 15.8%
  • Between bra strap and waist length

    Votes: 24 13.6%
  • Waist length

    Votes: 35 19.8%
  • Whip length

    Votes: 12 6.8%
  • Hip length

    Votes: 10 5.6%
  • Tailbone length

    Votes: 18 10.2%

  • Total voters
    177

sarumoki

Epicurean Empress
That is so fascinating! What did he say that he 'saw' in your hair, that he'd never seen in natural hair before?




@sarumoki , come here gal! Do tell!
Lmaooooo I love you! You're so hilarious.

He said that my hair looked moisturized and shiny and really full. Then he asked if he could feel my ends and I said yes. He said they were beyond soft.
 

water_n_oil

Well-Known Member
Yes, it's all I did over the summer when I wore my hair mostly curly after seeing 22nd Century Woman do it. My issue is the amount of Shea I have to use to make it work. Plus I started breaking out around my hairline...(I'm sure from the copious amounts of water and Shea sitting/sliding down from my hair to my skin)

Another reason is I'm only wearing roller sets going forward, and that process would cause too much reversion. When I use Shea plus gel; I can use a very small amount then hurry and tie my silk scarf on it while it dries. It pretty much dries straight with hardley any reversion...just one or two bends that straighten out as the days go by.
Makes sense. What about Curls control paste? That worked well when I was still using edge control.
 

ashbash

Well-Known Member
So I definitely need to use a lighter hand when using Shea on my flat ironed hair

I’ve been mainly using it on my ends, and to smooth and shine

My hair was feeling a little oily so I brushed in some dry shampoo and wrapped it up
This is what I normally do when my press gets too oily(usually after a week or two) but I’ve never tried it with oil caused from Shea my hair has only been straight since Tuesday so not even a week yet...

I want to get at least another couple of days down before I pull it back into a pony or a bun

Despite how oily it feels it’s still moving and shining and feels sooooooooooooooooo soft
 

Chicoro

5 Year Shea Anniversary: Started Dec 16th, 2016!
I pulled on my hair when I was washing it this morning and if I trust @Chicoro and the lead hair theory I am touching waist length. But I still need a few inches before I’m fully waist length.

Why oh why does my curly hair insists on shrinking to not even shoulder length?

If one hair can get there, it is POSSIBLE for the rest of the hair to get there. See Chewbacca as a reference. Patience and care are some of the other components you will need, too.
 

Chicoro

5 Year Shea Anniversary: Started Dec 16th, 2016!
The areas that I have been using Shea butter on,paying extra attention to is coming in thicker/stronger/softer and more wavy..

Happy Hair Growing!

Congratulations! I bet it is gorgeous to look at, too!

Sidenote:
If you change that bolded part above around a bit, you too could use that Daft Punk song as a semi-anthem: Harder, Better, Faster, Stronger like @mzteaze in post #1067.
 

Chicoro

5 Year Shea Anniversary: Started Dec 16th, 2016!
I mixed up another blend of Shea mix today to take on holiday with me. This time, I scraped slithers of Shea from a large block I have, and added it unmetlted to the mixer with the beater attachment. I added boabab and sweet almond oils, as well as my fenugreek & calendula oil and a teaspoon of coconut oil. I added a base scent of vanilla and then a few drops of ylang ylang, lavender, tea tree, rosemary. After beating the Shea into submission, I changed to the whisk attachment, added some ground cinnamon and whipped for a further 15mins. The mix is light and creamy. I used the excess (from the tools I used) on my skin and I can't stop touching myself.

A large BLOCK, of Shea you say? If that is not a trigger, I don't know what is! Your mix sounds like it smells divine. Wherever you are going on holiday, you may find that people will be trying to reach out and touch you.

The feeling people get when @GGsKin walks by with her latest Shea mix blend:

First they catch a whiff:



Then, they get this visual:



And here they come...


You may be setting yourself up for a not so peaceful holiday!
 

Chicoro

5 Year Shea Anniversary: Started Dec 16th, 2016!
Lmaooooo I love you! You're so hilarious.

He said that my hair looked moisturized and shiny and really full. Then he asked if he could feel my ends and I said yes. He said they were beyond soft.

How were you wearing your hair? Naturally in a braid or twist out? Or was it heat straightened?




BRAVO, @sarumoki representing for the Shea Sisters and Queen Shea, herself!!!!


And he even ASKED for permission before putting his hands in your hair. Look at that: Queen Shea making them bow down with respect.
 

Chicoro

5 Year Shea Anniversary: Started Dec 16th, 2016!
This thread is moving so fast. I'm at least 10 pages behind. It's intimidating...

Don't be scared! It seems to only move fast between Sunday and Monday. You should have time to catch up if you start now. By the way, most of the AHA's! and key discoveries will go on the first page, in the first post of this thread. Otherwise, the majority of the information is in support of one another and being silly.
 

Chicoro

5 Year Shea Anniversary: Started Dec 16th, 2016!
So I definitely need to use a lighter hand when using Shea on my flat ironed hair

I’ve been mainly using it on my ends, and to smooth and shine

My hair was feeling a little oily so I brushed in some dry shampoo and wrapped it up
This is what I normally do when my press gets too oily(usually after a week or two) but I’ve never tried it with oil caused from Shea my hair has only been straight since Tuesday so not even a week yet...

I want to get at least another couple of days down before I pull it back into a pony or a bun

Despite how oily it feels it’s still moving and shining and feels sooooooooooooooooo soft





Do it @ashbash ! Hair greased down with Shea, yet still blowing in the wind!
 

Chicoro

5 Year Shea Anniversary: Started Dec 16th, 2016!
This coming weekend, I'm heading back up to Paris for a day to support a friend in her professional endeavors. She has a tub of Shea butter waiting for me. I think it might be 1 Kilogram. I hope she remembers, but that's what text messaging is for. This addition will bring my stash up to 4.5 kilograms or 9.9 (10) pounds.

Remember, I have not bought ANY Shea butter since 2017! That 10 pounds has been gifted to me.
 

Chicoro

5 Year Shea Anniversary: Started Dec 16th, 2016!
I have some hair strands that have grown past my tail bone. I only trim when I straighten or when the hair becomes problematic. So, that hair may be along for the entire ride in 2019.

In terms of length, I would say that the hair is ALMOST 1/2 over my behind. I think I have about 2 inches to go for it to be at the Halfway Buttock Mark!

It is only about 5 hairs or so. As I always, let me remind everyone that I am a strand counter.
 

Chicoro

5 Year Shea Anniversary: Started Dec 16th, 2016!
Clarifying the LOC Process


I have stopped using my baggie concoction. I noticed my hair still sticks together, though. But, the great thing is that my hair stays moist in my baggie. I wet my hair, apply castor oil and then put the Shea butter over the top of my hair.

I see videos of people putting on oil first and then 'moisturizing' products on top of their hair. Then, they say that oil on the hair first doesn't make sense because it blocks out the moisturizing product that is water based.

THEY ARE MISSING THE POINT!

The layering has NOTHING to do with getting the moisture from the 'moisturizing' product into the hair. It has EVERYTHING to do with retaining the plain water in the hair, that you added FIRST!

The purpose of the layering is to hold in the plain WATER you initially put on the hair, which is the ONLY true moisturizer, in the hair.

GOAL:
  1. Retain the plain water you put in your hair for as long as possible.
  2. And, slow down the evaporation of that SAID water by layering with a liquid, oil and and then an emulsion (cream).

Here's the image I created and posted in December 2008 in my Fotki:


It has over 17,000 views. Somebody, not me, changed my emulsified base label to a 'cream'.And this process was then called, "LOC" for liquid, oil and cream. Here is the fotki link:

https://public.fotki.com/Chicoro123/hair-care/tutorials/how-to-strategicall/006.html

I originally saw people on LHCF using cream and then oil. I did research for my own crispy, dry, hair ends and the picture above is what I came up with.


The LOC process does not work for everyone and that is okay. But, it is important to understand it so you can figure out why it may or may not be working for you and provide you with information to find what does work for you. Remember, I always say that gaining length on afro-textured hair is a THINKING game that requires analysis and understanding. It is NOT a guessing game.

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The liquid, oil and cream are SEPARATE and apart from the water you place on the hair [substrate]. The goal of putting on liquid, oil and cream based products is to hold in the water that you put on the hair FIRST. It is not important if the 'moisturizing' product penetrates the hair or not. Most 'moisturizing products' are lubricating products anyway, as they contain oils and fake silicones.

By the way, my favorite liquid is whole aloe vera gel, which is water based, but NOT water. And of course, Shea butter is my favorite emulsion (cream), as it contains both wax and gums along with its other yummy, buttery components.
 
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sarumoki

Epicurean Empress
How were you wearing your hair? Naturally in a braid or twist out? Or was it heat straightened?




BRAVO, @sarumoki representing for the Shea Sisters and Queen Shea, herself!!!!


And he even ASKED for permission before putting his hands in your hair. Look at that: Queen Shea making them bow down with respect.
I had it in a ponytail/puff that was mid-height, like right in the back of my head. My hair was stretched out a little because I rollerset but still poofy because it had shrank a bit. I'll upload a picture when I get on my laptop.
 

snoop

Well-Known Member
The liquid, oil and cream are SEPARATE and apart from the water you place on the hair [substrate]. The goal of putting on liquid, oil and cream based products is to hold in the water that you put on the hair FIRST. It is not important if the 'moisturizing' product penetrates the hair or not. Most 'moisturizing products' are lubricating products anyway, as they contain oils and fake silicones.

By the way, my favorite liquid is whole aloe vera gel, which is water based, but NOT water. And of course, Shea butter is my favorite emulsion (cream), as it contains both wax and gums along with its other yummy, buttery components.

Can I pop in with a question? Does your shea butter mix contain water? If not, how do you qualify it as a cream, as my understanding is that creams and lotions are emulsified (oil and water) products?



By the way, I might be back with you guys... for real this time. :sekret:


EDIT WITH ANOTHER QUESTION: So the method that you describe above water + liquid + oil + cream?
 
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ElevatedEnergy

Rooted Yet Flowing
Makes sense. What about Curls control paste? That worked well when I was still using edge control.

I tried it years ago but dont remember much about its performance. I generally dont care for edge controls though. Most after a day or 2 usually leave an oily, waxy mess behind for me.

Today my hairline still feels moist with a soft hold from the Shea & Long Aid combo. At least I've found a few combos that work well so far.
 

Chicoro

5 Year Shea Anniversary: Started Dec 16th, 2016!
Can I pop in with a question? Does your shea butter mix contain water? If not, how do you qualify it as a cream, as my understanding is that creams and lotions are emulsified (oil and water) products?



By the way, I might be back with you guys... for real this time. :sekret:


EDIT WITH ANOTHER QUESTION: So the method that you describe above water + liquid + oil + cream?

  • Question#1: No, my Shea mix doesn't contain water. I use it as my emulsified component in the process. Technically, Shea butter does have some water in it from the processing of the Shea nuts.
  • Question #2: Wetted hair [substrate] : Then liquid + oil + emulsified component (cream)
 

Lita

Well-Known Member
How long have you been using Shea butter @Lita?

@Chicoro Hello! I started hitting the Shea butter hard during the month of November 2018,so far,so good..I noticed my detangling sessions are a breeze & less hair shed..Also,I’m using more products with Shea butter listed in the ingredients this way I can stay consistent..:oops:

*Shea Nilotica right out the jar is AWESOME!!

Happy Hair Growing!
 

Chicoro

5 Year Shea Anniversary: Started Dec 16th, 2016!
@Chicoro Hello! I started hitting the Shea butter hard during the month of November 2018,so far,so good..I noticed my detangling sessions are a breeze & less hair shed..Also,I’m using more products with Shea butter listed in the ingredients this way I can stay consistent..:oops:

*Shea Nilotica right out the jar is AWESOME!!

Happy Hair Growing!

I, Chicoro, on this 25th day of February 2019, hearby nominate and induct @Lita into the Shea Made Hair Unicorn Hall of Fame! Outted in post #1069 showing changes in hair thickness and increased waves in hair.




Congratulations!!!!!!





Come on down and claim your award. You earned it!​

@caribeandiva ,
Please do your thing!
 
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