2017 Bsl/mbl Challenge

shanelallyn30

Well-Known Member
i love that video. weekly hot oil treatments with heat is how i got my hair to get so shiny like that. i love your hair. it looks good to me, but we are always are worst critics lol. keep up the good work.


Since my hair is steam iron straightened, I decided to try the style that was my whole reason for wanting to straighten in the first place (the style/method in the video below).'

I trimmed quite a bit. Probably 1/4 of an inch. I was too chicken to spritz with water, and my two flat twists were a little too loose (I will keep practicing :up: ).

Image enlarges upon click.

View attachment 411753

[/QUOTE.
 

YvetteWithJoy

On break
Ooh yall. My split ends have gone into hiding. I know that nothing can actually repair them, but geez!! I'm feeling my strands today. Frfr. That 2 hour aloe prepoo was alladat.

I plan to do it again next washday, but I will use an applicator bottle next time, because it got messy.

Ms. Metty, how exactly did you handle the aloe leaf? Did you blend up the entire thing? How long did you let it sit? And I'm sorry for asking again, but where did you get your aloe?
 

shanelallyn30

Well-Known Member
@Tefnut no I don't let it sit for two weeks. I literaly make my batch and put it in a glass container and put it in a pot full of water and turn it on low f0r 24 hours. (someone's always at my house to ensure water levels stay high. its low but high just enough to see the steam from the jar.

I add a heaping teaspoon of sulfur and msm and half a cup of fenugreek seeds. I put emu oil in mine too.

I seen that video lol. she has great growth. have you seen reneices hair showcase video on youtube. Oh man those transformations are insane.

You should try the Henna, a lot of people rave about it. Actually I buy vatika henna natural black hair dye at the Indian store. I use to do henna first and then indigo henna but that was too much work and took to long. The vatika henna goes on nicely (still a little messy) and I put a bag over my head and my car comes out so black its amazing.

I need to look up the refresher spray wasn't aware of that. actually in the beginning I was adding toooo much henna so I had a bunch of mud that I just literally took out the jar and put it all on my hair minus the roots and deep conditioned with it.

I know right this PJism is a serious condition. Good thing we don't have that problem... lol. I don't need anything else but I like to tweak things to make sure that im giving my hair the best chance to flourish.

Yeah you got some hair touching MBL !! that's awesome. and yes please do a length check im doing one Oct 1 with my mane choice tshirt I got for 7$. So get on the bandwagon and take some pics so we will have our before and after. So exciting. and yes please do drag me across that finish line I need some wsl by jan .



I'm back to using Xcel-21 twice a day. I also am washing back on a daily co-wash routine.

I made my CP hair brew a few days ago and it should be ready in a couple of weeks. So you don't let it sit for 2 weeks? You brew it on the stove instead? Please explain more. I'm intrigued. I thought about adding sulfur to my mix but kept it with the MSM + fenugreek. How much sulfur do you add? MSM powder? I followed NickyBNautral's recipe, which also included Brahmi powder. I added a dab of Vitamin C too. I was most inspired by Nicky's video and her growth.

I'm really considering doing a henna mix since I have the powder now. Do you follow up your henna with indigo powder to make your hair darker without a yellow/red hue? I'm definitely going to do CP's henna refresher spray recipe. Do you add the oil or the leftovers to your deep conditioner?

I used to use Infusium when I was a teen and first went natural. My mom had it around the house and I liked it. I would add it after I deep conditioned my hair. Maybe that's why my hair wasn't shedding as much. :drunk: I had considered going back to it but I don't know. I want to keep my PJism in check. There are some REAL addicts on this site. :look:

I haven't measured my hair with my length-check shirt (can't find it and I think I want another one) since January and at the time I was BSL. I pulled one layer of my hair and it seemed to be MLB now. I've been washing out my deep conditioner in the wee hours after letting it marinate all day and haven't done a proper length check. I've been too tired and had to get my hair done soon after. I'll make time when I take my hair down soon. I'm confident I'll meet my WL goal this year. (ETA: And I'm dragging your behind with me across that finish line @shanelallyn30!)

This thread is a good challenge and everyone seems to be on their stuff. When I saw your comment about being 5'9, I had to comment lol. :pepper:

The progress you and others made (especially in the link you shared of your previous megagrowth) has really inspired me to get on it and do what I know works.

Thank you, ladies! :bighug:
 

Prettymetty

Natural/4b/medium-coarse
Ms. Metty, how exactly did you handle the aloe leaf? Did you blend up the entire thing? How long did you let it sit? And I'm sorry for asking again, but where did you get your aloe?
I buy the leaves from my local hispanic grocery store. I cut off about 6 inches and cut away the skin. Then I blend the inner gel in a food processor. It's very slimy, but not does it work wonders.

I covered my hair with a plastic cap and let it sit about 2 hours.
 

Tefnut

Well-Known Member
Hmm, now you have me thinking about adding some sulfur powder to my mix. So you add a teaspoon each of MSM powder and sulfur powder? Hmm...

My mix has been brewing in the sun since Thursday. I may add it to the stove for 12 hours. Do you think that may be effective?

Hmm, Vatika henna ... I used the Vatika Amla and the coconut oils back in 'o9 and my hair hated them. My hair felt so crunchy and hard. But I was using them because the LHCF girls swore by them. I thought my hair hated coconut oil until I used 100% coconut oil and realized my hair likes it, especially when mixed with a detangling conditioner. I figured my hair hated the Vatika mixture. When I asked for Hesh Amla powder (it sells out fast at many Indian stores) the grocer pointed me to the Vatika Amla oil. I was like, no thank you!

I think I initially saw the tea, which contains Amla, Henna and Shikakai, on this site (maybe in this thread: https://longhaircareforum.com/threads/thoughts-on-this-homemade-hair-growth-oil.816155/) but I saw her discuss it here (she said it's better than Aphogee or Chi's hair strengther for her hair):


She said you can add Brahmi and other powders but found those three to work the best. She also did a tea rinse video here:
Uh huh, we're so close to WL and have to cheer each other on. My short term goal is WL and my long term goal is HL. I think I'd lke to grow it to TL when straightened. My hair shrinks so much that if it were TL curly, it'd be dragging behind me like a train. :lachen:


I love Reniece's showcase. I've been watching it over the year. Yes, those hair transformations are amazing. She's truly gifted. I follow Tamika Bell's work with clients too. She was trained by Reniece as well.



@Tefnut no I don't let it sit for two weeks. I literaly make my batch and put it in a glass container and put it in a pot full of water and turn it on low f0r 24 hours. (someone's always at my house to ensure water levels stay high. its low but high just enough to see the steam from the jar.

I add a heaping teaspoon of sulfur and msm and half a cup of fenugreek seeds. I put emu oil in mine too.

I seen that video lol. she has great growth. have you seen reneices hair showcase video on youtube. Oh man those transformations are insane.

You should try the Henna, a lot of people rave about it. Actually I buy vatika henna natural black hair dye at the Indian store. I use to do henna first and then indigo henna but that was too much work and took to long. The vatika henna goes on nicely (still a little messy) and I put a bag over my head and my car comes out so black its amazing.

I need to look up the refresher spray wasn't aware of that. actually in the beginning I was adding toooo much henna so I had a bunch of mud that I just literally took out the jar and put it all on my hair minus the roots and deep conditioned with it.

I know right this PJism is a serious condition. Good thing we don't have that problem... lol. I don't need anything else but I like to tweak things to make sure that im giving my hair the best chance to flourish.

Yeah you got some hair touching MBL !! that's awesome. and yes please do a length check im doing one Oct 1 with my mane choice tshirt I got for 7$. So get on the bandwagon and take some pics so we will have our before and after. So exciting. and yes please do drag me across that finish line I need some wsl by jan .
 

Tefnut

Well-Known Member
Hmm... This seems similar to Naptural85's method but I think I like this better. I have an aloe leaf waiting for me in my kitchen. You're giving me some ideas.

I buy the leaves from my local hispanic grocery store. I cut off about 6 inches and cut away the skin. Then I blend the inner gel in a food processor. It's very slimy, but not does it work wonders.

I covered my hair with a plastic cap and let it sit about 2 hours.
 

shanelallyn30

Well-Known Member
oh man those were great videos thank you. I need to try both of those. I like DIY stuff helps save money on hair products and you get more.

yep add a heaping teaspoon like njoy does with her oil, and yes putting it on the stove has work wonders for me. my hair is responding well. all you can do is try the stove way one month and then try your outside oil the next month and see if there is a difference.

I don't use the vatika oils, I just use the I think its called nepur or some henna stuff with a bunch of different powders already in it for when I henna my hair. isn't that funny how when things are mixed your hair hates it but single out an ingredient and your hair may absolutely love it. the joys of being on your hair journey lol.

oh man TL is your final hair goal. I was thinking WL was good until I started seeing all these chicks with their curly hair that's TL straighten. its the perfect curly length in my eyes. oh man when we reach wsl, I guess we will be joining the TL thread. OH SNAPS!!


Hmm, now you have me thinking about adding some sulfur powder to my mix. So you add a teaspoon each of MSM powder and sulfur powder? Hmm...

My mix has been brewing in the sun since Thursday. I may add it to the stove for 12 hours. Do you think that may be effective?

Hmm, Vatika henna ... I used the Vatika Amla and the coconut oils back in 'o9 and my hair hated them. My hair felt so crunchy and hard. But I was using them because the LHCF girls swore by them. I thought my hair hated coconut oil until I used 100% coconut oil and realized my hair likes it, especially when mixed with a detangling conditioner. I figured my hair hated the Vatika mixture. When I asked for Hesh Amla powder (it sells out fast at many Indian stores) the grocer pointed me to the Vatika Amla oil. I was like, no thank you!

I think I initially saw the tea, which contains Amla, Henna and Shikakai, on this site (maybe in this thread: https://longhaircareforum.com/threads/thoughts-on-this-homemade-hair-growth-oil.816155/) but I saw her discuss it here (she said it's better than Aphogee or Chi's hair strengther for her hair):


She said you can add Brahmi and other powders but found those three to work the best. She also did a tea rinse video here:
Uh huh, we're so close to WL and have to cheer each other on. My short term goal is WL and my long term goal is HL. I think I'd lke to grow it to TL when straightened. My hair shrinks so much that if it were TL curly, it'd be dragging behind me like a train. :lachen:


I love Reniece's showcase. I've been watching it over the year. Yes, those hair transformations are amazing. She's truly gifted. I follow Tamika Bell's work with clients too. She was trained by Reniece as well.
 

Tefnut

Well-Known Member
Yeah, I'm in my DIY mode now so this is great for me too.

OK, I have a container of sulfur powder I got 4 years ago. I'll add a teaspoon of that.

Yeah, I used the Napur henna with like 9 herbs and spices too.

OK, so I just looked in the mirror ... nude. And My hips sit lower than my tail, so HL on me (counting the widest part of my hips) is pretty darn low. I have to re-access this goal of mine lol.

I initially wanted WL but have been coaxed to pursue longer lengths thanks to LHCF. So now I want it longer, especially because I usually wear my hair curly. But HL ... whew wee! Yep, if I'm gonna do TL, I might as well drag you along too!







oh man those were great videos thank you. I need to try both of those. I like DIY stuff helps save money on hair products and you get more.

yep add a heaping teaspoon like njoy does with her oil, and yes putting it on the stove has work wonders for me. my hair is responding well. all you can do is try the stove way one month and then try your outside oil the next month and see if there is a difference.

I don't use the vatika oils, I just use the I think its called nepur or some henna stuff with a bunch of different powders already in it for when I henna my hair. isn't that funny how when things are mixed your hair hates it but single out an ingredient and your hair may absolutely love it. the joys of being on your hair journey lol.

oh man TL is your final hair goal. I was thinking WL was good until I started seeing all these chicks with their curly hair that's TL straighten. its the perfect curly length in my eyes. oh man when we reach wsl, I guess we will be joining the TL thread. OH SNAPS!!
 

shanelallyn30

Well-Known Member
Yes DIY mode for life!!! except some stuff you know we have to buy lmao. yes girl add that sulfur powder. Make sure you check if it has an expiration don't need no setbacks :(.

Yep that's the one I use to. its crazy how these indian oils have been a game changer for a lot of peoples hair journeys. and thank God there cheap lol.

:cry3:another tall person issue. WHY US!!! HL is crazy low on me to. I think TL is way more than enough. Anything more than that is flat showing off :p. Yes please re-access the situation lmao. lets keep the eye on TL. we are tall that's a lot of hair. Im trying to take this one step at a time HL seems unreal. but then again you are right we should shoot for the gold. I think (I know) I would be a hot a$$ mess with HL hair. I would be doing so much extra. the inner bad girl would be out daily :angeldevil:. :(.

you sure love dragging people along lol. but its all good im up for the challenge and look forward to the celebration :alcoholics:.


also according to that chart I been mbl. but Im tall so I know that's not accurate. i need to do a nude length check and look. lol



Yeah, I'm in my DIY mode now so this is great for me too.

OK, I have a container of sulfur powder I got 4 years ago. I'll add a teaspoon of that.

Yeah, I used the Napur henna with like 9 herbs and spices too.

OK, so I just looked in the mirror ... nude. And My hips sit lower than my tail, so HL on me (counting the widest part of my hips) is pretty darn low. I have to re-access this goal of mine lol.

I initially wanted WL but have been coaxed to pursue longer lengths thanks to LHCF. So now I want it longer, especially because I usually wear my hair curly. But HL ... whew wee! Yep, if I'm gonna do TL, I might as well drag you along too!

 

Tefnut

Well-Known Member
OK, I did check and the sulfur powder expires in December so I have time.

I'll add it. I only have about 2/3 left of a 12 oz container. I got the sublimed sulfur from a pharmacist back in early 2013. Damn time flies!

I can't believe I slept on the Indian oils. I gave them a shot with the premade oils but I remember reading threads about Amla, henna, Brahmi, Cassia, Shikakai and Bhringraj had me like ...




I don't know why I didn't mix those powders but ran out and got Megatek. Anywhoo ... I'm I know sulfur works for growth as does MSM and other oils so here I am.

Yeah, I think TL straightened may be my final destination. You probably are MLB. Sometimes I look at my body and I'm like, WL on me is a lot of hair. I remember thinking that when I was previously BSL and MBL.

I'll wear my hair out but in all honesty, I love updos and various protective styles. Do I'll do a mix.

Either, I'll try not to hurt 'em too badly. :lachen:

Yes DIY mode for life!!! except some stuff you know we have to buy lmao. yes girl add that sulfur powder. Make sure you check if it has an expiration don't need no setbacks :(.

Yep that's the one I use to. its crazy how these indian oils have been a game changer for a lot of peoples hair journeys. and thank God there cheap lol.

:cry3:another tall person issue. WHY US!!! HL is crazy low on me to. I think TL is way more than enough. Anything more than that is flat showing off :p. Yes please re-access the situation lmao. lets keep the eye on TL. we are tall that's a lot of hair. Im trying to take this one step at a time HL seems unreal. but then again you are right we should shoot for the gold. I think (I know) I would be a hot a$$ mess with HL hair. I would be doing so much extra. the inner bad girl would be out daily :angeldevil:. :(.

you sure love dragging people along lol. but its all good im up for the challenge and look forward to the celebration :alcoholics:.


also according to that chart I been mbl. but Im tall so I know that's not accurate. i need to do a nude length check and look. lol
 

shanelallyn30

Well-Known Member
Hey guys I was reading this today. Most of you probably read this post already but I thought it was a great read especially when Toy chimed in and said that's how she got her banging a$$ hair. @Tefnut i think I'm starting this Jan 1 to get to tbl rather I make it wsl or not. I'm think I want to try the inversion method to. has anyone here had succes with that?

I think cowashing and bunning will get me there for sure. My bun is juicy but I'm going to add some extra hair for longer length and thickness because it ain't big enough to me lol. I'm super excited. I saw some chick with tailbone hair today and I was like dam that is so sexy. Tbl it is. Omg can't wait.

https://longhaircareforum.com/threads/cowashing-and-bunning-the-key-to-wsl-hair.364679/
 
Last edited:

YvetteWithJoy

On break
I'm still working out my issues with having fine, super high shrinkage, 4a hair and the SSKs and constant manipulation-via-detangling that come along with.

I know the answer is keeping my hair stretched. I'm experimenting to figure out what's going to work for me and my skill set and style goals, regarding keeping my hair stretched.

I decided to try my deep wave curlformers again.

:yep: So far so good, but we'll see about those final results. :smile: I had a few issues when I patch tested these curlformers previously (but these might have just been about my styling skill level :smile:).

Here's what I wrote in the deep wave curlformer thread:

I tried it again. I dampened my completely dry hair with a tiny bit of water from a spray bottle, and applied the Design Essentials foam. (I feel like a need some other product for this, eventually.)

My family is giving me serious side-eyes and some straight out guffaws/laughs, but it didn't take long to install them and I didn't have to use a ton of them.

The very good: I figured out how to install without much tension on the hair, and with no hair loss!!! :clap:

An issue: I can see my hair through the deep wave curl formers, and in several of them my hair is somewhat stretched but I can see a few coils!!! Seeing coils = not good. We'll see how this turns out. Regardless, this stretching should prevent tangling!!!


I purchased a can of good old fashioned Aqua Net super duper hold hair spray. I'm going to do very delicate separation, and then try to shellac it with the Aqua Net.

WP_20171001_003 1.jpg
 

Evolving78

Well-Known Member
Had to break out my heat styling tools. I can't do that air drying mess, and I don't know why I keep trying. I will flat iron, curl my hair and keep it moving for the next 5 days.
I used Naked By Essations Infusion 365 Leave-in and Aphogee Green tea. I will use my SE olive oil heat protectant and keep it moving. Will be using a humidifier and my satin scarf to help keep the moisture.
 

LushLox

Well-Known Member
Had to break out my heat styling tools. I can't do that air drying mess, and I don't know why I keep trying. I will flat iron, curl my hair and keep it moving for the next 5 days.
I used Naked By Essations Infusion 365 Leave-in and Aphogee Green tea. I will use my SE olive oil heat protectant and keep it moving. Will be using a humidifier and my satin scarf to help keep the moisture.

What problems are you experiencing with air drying?

I've been okay with it so far, the only issue for me is it takes a while to dry!
 

Prettymetty

Natural/4b/medium-coarse
I'm still working out my issues with having fine, super high shrinkage, 4a hair and the SSKs and constant manipulation-via-detangling that come along with.

I know the answer is keeping my hair stretched. I'm experimenting to figure out what's going to work for me and my skill set and style goals, regarding keeping my hair stretched.

I decided to try my deep wave curlformers again.

:yep: So far so good, but we'll see about those final results. :smile: I had a few issues when I patch tested these curlformers previously (but these might have just been about my styling skill level :smile:).

Here's what I wrote in the deep wave curlformer thread:

I tried it again. I dampened my completely dry hair with a tiny bit of water from a spray bottle, and applied the Design Essentials foam. (I feel like a need some other product for this, eventually.)

My family is giving me serious side-eyes and some straight out guffaws/laughs, but it didn't take long to install them and I didn't have to use a ton of them.

The very good: I figured out how to install without much tension on the hair, and with no hair loss!!! :clap:

An issue: I can see my hair through the deep wave curl formers, and in several of them my hair is somewhat stretched but I can see a few coils!!! Seeing coils = not good. We'll see how this turns out. Regardless, this stretching should prevent tangling!!!


I purchased a can of good old fashioned Aqua Net super duper hold hair spray. I'm going to do very delicate separation, and then try to shellac it with the Aqua Net.

View attachment 412419
How did it turn out sis?
 

YvetteWithJoy

On break
How did it turn out sis?

TFA (thanks for asking)!

My hair wasn't dry before I had to remove the curlformers to go to church. I ended up having to bun.

I'm going to try again, but this time on Friday night instead of Saturday night. I don't feel that DE mousse is the best product for it, so I'm going to try something else. Not sure what, yet.

I can't wait to master it: It took no time to install and should eliminate SSKs.
 

Evolving78

Well-Known Member
What problems are you experiencing with air drying?

I've been okay with it so far, the only issue for me is it takes a while to dry!
My hair is very dry, my ends are rough, my new growth is matted down/meshed together. I end up using a lot of product trying to keep it moisturized. I experience more breakage.
Using heat helps seal in the leave-in products and makes my hair more smooth and manageable. My blow dried hair was really nice. I didn't have to use extra heat, but I decided to use the flat iron. I used a satin scarf (true satin material) and my hair isn't dry this morning!!' Yay!
I would really like to get to back to a place where I can just use a light oil and not have to moisturize, causing buildup.
 

shanelallyn30

Well-Known Member
I took the Senegalese twists out and straightened my hair. I don't feel like my hair is long at all. Especially seeing the tbl thread. Thanks a lot @Tefnut. Lmao. So I'm starting my bunning to tbl as of yesterday and started the inversion method and today I'm on day three. I do it after I cowash at night. Sorry the pic is so bad. But I'm not straightening again for a better one. Lol
 

Attachments

  • IMG_0212.JPG
    IMG_0212.JPG
    141.8 KB · Views: 45

Evolving78

Well-Known Member
I took the Senegalese twists out and straightened my hair. I don't feel like my hair is long at all. Especially seeing the tbl thread. Thanks a lot @Tefnut. Lmao. So I'm starting my bunning to tbl as of yesterday and started the inversion method and today I'm on day three. I do it after I cowash at night. Sorry the pic is so bad. But I'm not straightening again for a better one. Lol
Is this the WL thread? Lol look at all of that hair!
 

YvetteWithJoy

On break
View media item 129493
My has recovered!

I prepooed with Chicoro's moisturized-drenched prepoo, putting Soultanicals Afrotastic Elastic on my ends.
I clarified with Kinky Curly Come Clean.
I sprayed the protein treatment dilution of Colorful Neutral Protein Filler on my hair, and then layered Soultanicals Afrotastic Curl Elastic over it.
I got busy and ended up wearing it (under a wig) for around 24 hours.
I rinsed with cool water, sprayed my hair with Aphogee Keratin & Green Tea Restructurizer, and then applied Qhemet Moringa CG and Uncle Funky's Daughter's Curly Magic.

I air dried under my Slap Cap all morning then under the HairFlair for a few hours. I wanted to pin the twists around my head, but I had 21 and decided not to.

Hair is on the mend if not fully mended. :yep:

(Photo enlarges upon click.)
WP_20171003_051.jpg
 
Last edited:
Top