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Relaxed Hair Thread


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Bun everyday, but I do wear it down for a few hours every few weeks to go out. Bunning my way to WL! :)

It really is a great method. I haven’t really needed to bun as I’ve been indoors so much over the last year, so it’s more or less been hidden. The retention is serious. I’m going to do it for at least another year, that might what I need to do to get me to WL.


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It really is a great method. I haven’t really needed to bun as I’ve been indoors so much over the last year, so it’s more or less been hidden. The retention is serious. I’m going to do it for at least another year, that might what I need to do to get me to WL.
I love bunning and it really does work to retain what you grow.

I read this thread from time to time to stay motivated. It's from 2003, but still relevant and inspiring. :yep:


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Reading through some old threads and Wanakee kept coming up. She was way ahead of her time. She was trying to tell us how to get our hair long, but we didn't hear her. I was able to find the verbiage from Wannake's hair guide from the late 90s. I actually received this guide in the mail back then and didn't believe I could have hair like hers. I threw it away. :rolleyes: I'm posting below before this 'historical' document is gone from the internet forever.

And yes, I'm printing this post! :)




If your hair has been damaged, take heart. Your hair is growing while you’re reading this. It was growing yesterday while you were having dinner, and it will be growing during your coffee break. If you've ever had a relaxer or hair color in your hair you know how fast it grows; seems like you need your roots touched up every time you blink! Yet women constantly say, "My hair just won’t grow. Why doesn't it ever get any longer?"

In order for your hair to grow, it has to have what I call a ‘healthy growth pattern’. Here’s what a healthy growth pattern looks like: Grow, grow, grow, trim. Grow, grow, grow, trim. Grow, grow, grow, trim. Notice, there’s three times more growing going on here than trimming.

An ‘unhealthy growth pattern’ looks like this: Grow, break, grow, break. Grow, break, grow, break. There’s as much breakage going on here, as there is growth. You can see clearly that the hair is growing. But it’s breaking just as fast as it grows; the breakage is NEUTRALIZING the growth, making it appear as if it’s not growing at all! So what’s causing all the breakage? Dry, brittle hair.

You’ll notice that after you trim your hair, the ends seem dry again almost immediately! You’d think it was because of too much heat or blow-drying or maybe a bad perm. Although these treatments can sometimes dry out your hair, they only happen occasionally. The process that happens everyday, drying out your hair is...exposure to the air!

Yes, something that simple can be sapping your hair of life. Think for a moment; air dries your laundry, it cracks your house paint, it chaps your lips, it ashes your skin; it’s a serious drying agent. And when you wear you hair down regularly, air dries out your hair too. The movement of your hair against your clothing can dry your ends even more; and when ends get dry, they break off.

Picture an ear of corn with the husk on it. Did you ever notice how awful the silk looks that’s hanging on the outside of husk? But if you peel the husk down, the silk is soft, shiny and in excellent condition. The only difference is that the top silk has been exposed to the air, while the silk inside the husk has not. Air can cause damage to your hair. Moisture and Oil for the Hair is a light daily application of protection against dryness that adds a gorgeous shine and allows the hair to remain clean feeling. It’s nice.

Since the ends are the oldest part of your hair, they suffer the most from this constant exposure to air. You can end the breakage cycle and experience a healthy growth pattern by following these simple rules. They may not seem very significant at a glance, but they are the steps that restored my damaged strands to a full, healthy head of hair. Remember that you want to preserve the ends while the roots grow. Being consistent and patient every day is the key to your success.


If you wash your hair less frequently than 7 days or so, the scalp may get irritated and begin to itch. And when dirt begins to build up on the strand, it slows down the brush or comb, creating a pulling affect, which can snap hairs. You’ll find that Deep conditioning at least once a week make the hair easy to comb through when the hair is wet and when it’s dry.


This means wearing your hair ‘up’ in a style that tucks the ends safely underneath the hair so the ends are not seen. Remember the ear of corn with the husk again: protective styling is like taking the dry tip of the silk, and tucking it safely underneath the husk, out of the air. But if your ends go up dry, they’ll come down dry.

My favorite protective styles are the French twist and the chignon (or bun). You should not be able to see the ends at all. A ponytail, for example, wouldn't be considered a protective style because the ends are moving and still exposed to the air. You can really have fun creating these styles, using all types of accessories and enhancing your look with simple things like earrings or a newly tweezed set of eyebrows! You can make your look clean or really do yourself up. Have fun with it.

If your hair is short, you’re going to protect your hair from the air and from too much movement while you sleep.


I know, I know! This is where I lose a lot of you ladies who have spouses; but hear me out. It's important at night, again, to take your hair out of the air and especially to eliminate all of the rubbing that takes place while you sleep. This rubbing can be bad news in the morning when your ends are frayed beyond recognition. A good thing about wrapping (or tying up) your hair at night is that it requires less styling the next day (sometimes you’re actually ready to go with just a quick stroke of the brush).

If you’ve read my brochure, you've heard me say that wrapping your head at night need not be grounds for divorce. You can use a fine meshed hair net over your bun or over your hair if it’s short, and then apply a wide cotton spandex headband around the hairline. It looks similar to a regular daytime look. If you’re still not loving the idea, my next best advice is to put it on late and take it off early! By the way, just sleeping on a silk pillowcase won’t help if your hair is still moving around and exposed to the air.

If your wrap comes off, and at some point it probably will (especially if your hair is short), half a night’s protection is better than none. But this simple, traditional routine of tying the hair up at night is still a very helpful method in maintaining your hair.


If you’re trying to grow your hair out, this is where protective styles really pay off. Your hair grows ¼ to ½ inch per month, so in 8 weeks it could have grown 1 inch. Let’s say you started your routine with a real good trim. And now, 8 weeks later it’s time for another trim. If you have been conditioning, using your Constant Care for Ends and wearing your protective styles everyday, your ends shouldn't even be split. So now you’re going to trim your hair before it splits. You only have to trim ¼ inch or so because it’s not split. That means you have ¾ of an inch of new length. You put those brand-new, freshly trimmed ends right back up into your protective styles and next month you’ll accumulate another ¾ of an inch - that’s 1 and ½ inches of real length in four months!

Now let’s look at what happens if you don’t wear protective styles. You wear your hair down, it rubs all day against your shoulders and the air makes it dry - but it looks good, I understand.

But here’s what happens: you go to get your trim in 8 weeks and you really only want the hairdresser to take ¼ of an inch off. But she sees damage and split ends as far up as an 1 and ½ inches. She cuts the damage off and, even though your hair has grown an inch, you just lost ½ inch in length because the constant damage caused by your ends being exposed DICTATED TO YOU how much hair had to be cut. With protective styling, you trim before your hair splits and you determine how much you trim off. Every little quarter of an inch is a victory.

Some women have asked me, "What is the point of having long hair if you have to wear it up?" The point of wearing it up is to have long hair. Once a young lady asked, "About how long would it take for me to grow my hair really long?" I told her it would take about 4 years with regular trimmings. She said "Four years? I’ll be 34 years old in four years, that’s too much time!" I had to remind her that she was going to be 34 years old in four years anyway; might as well get there having fabulous hair.

If you have short hair, don’t let all this talk of protective styles disturb you. If you keep your hair cut short and trimmed on a regular basis, it’s automatically healthier by being trimmed more often. It's when hair becomes long that the protective styles become necessary. If you’re not growing your hair long, but are keeping it trimmed and styled at a fixed length, then you can get away with wearing it down more often than the person who is on a mission to grow long hair.


@Omw2TbL since Wanakee is on your visionboard, check out my post above. :)
I put her on my vision board after I read your post. I almost fell off of my chair when I saw her hair. I'm from '98 so I never heard of her. But I have been looking on forums to see what women used to do between the 50s and 90s because their permed hair always looked so shiny and full. I'm assuming she's relaxed, correct me if I'm wrong tho. Your post kind of answered my quest, so thank you!


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I'm probably going to relax next week. I wanted to do a 6 month stretch, and I'm at 6.5 months now.
Also at 8 weeks with these twists, and I can't go any longer.
At this point, the plan was to weigh continuing on a transition back to natural or relax. I'm leaning more towards relaxing again. If I do, I'm considering keeping this 6 month interval between relaxers. Not sure though because it has certainly been challenging.


Hey everyone, can someone give me a short list of OG members that had tailbone length relaxed hair.
Besides that, I will be taking out my box braids Sunday and do my wash routine. I also picked up the biggest bottle of the Aphogee 2 min reconstructor and the green tea and keratin restructurizer since it has silk protein. I also picked up a new hooded dryer attachment called Gold N' Hot...it's trash!! It doesn't have a draw string for the head and just flies of when I turn on the blowdryer, not only off of my head but also of the blowdryer
Oh well, I'll just have to hold it in place with my hands. How convenient :drunk:. I might try the hot head, does anyone use it?



@Omw2TbL off the top of my head, search for Sylver2 and Toye. If I'm remembering correctly, they were relaxed TBL from back in the day.

There were others, I can't remember the user names though.
I just found Sylvers Youtube channel, it's crazy that we have the exact same mole next to the nose. But sadly I can't see any of her pictures in the threads or fotki. It's lovely to see how many compliments she got for her hair and tips though. Thank you for the names!


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I need to trim my hair. I keep putting it off. Your post will serve as a reminder as to why I need to trim :).

I always put it off too. But as I’m doing it, I really enjoy it, I suppose it’s cause the hair immediately feels healthier. I’m going to start doing it on a tighter schedule because I make up the loss very quickly if I keep on top of it.


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I wish I had watched this video before I trimmed because it looks to be such a bomb.com way to trim. And her hair is stunning too! :drool:She starts trimming around the 20 minute mark. Does anyone know what this clip is called?

In the comment section she said she rigged it together with a duck bill clip, but you can probably use a crea clip to do the same thing.

edited to add she got the clip from Sally Beauty.


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Cleaning out my bathroom cabinets and found an unused bottle of Castor oil. Last night was dc night, so I decided to add a little to my conditioner (along with my normal honey and EVOO).

I always have a little shine after a dc, but here's a pic from this morning BEFORE moisturizing. The boost in shine was incredible!