Discussion in 'Hair Care Tips & Product Review Discussion' started by Alma Petra, Dec 13, 2018.
Looking good @ckisland !
How do you get your curls to last without gel?
I think my hair has become "trained" to hold some kind of pattern without product. And I found that using a wide tooth comb actually helps my definition more than finger detangling. The crown of my hair is the most defined and will last the longest. My 4a section loses definition so fast . I think that's because it's right at my neck/shoulders.
I've been changing the look of my wash n go, and getting more length + curls by using a diffuser.
I ordered a hair dryer from amazon with a pretty big diffuser, and it's been giving me Bomb wash n gos....
(Tonight's was great, because all I did was a refresh... I poured water over most of the ends of my curls...
they had a lot of gel and product left from my original wash n go from Sunday.)
I then diffused it with a big bowl diffuser.
I got compliments all night from random people.
Surprisingly - I ordered an Xtava Black Orchid diffuser after reading reviews.
It wasn't supposed to arrive until February 6th, but it came Yesterday!!!
(@Theresamonet did you receive yours yet?/try it out?)
Mine doesn't fit my dryer, but I found a hack online that will allow me to attach as use it
(once I go to the hardware store)
@metro_qt which dryer do you have? Do you dry you hair immediately after applying product or do you let it air dry for awile first.
I really need to try this. I want to stretch my curls.
@metro_qt did you buy your diffuser online. I want to get one today but neither target or Ulta or Sally’s have it. I guess I’ll just have to wait for amazon to deliver it. I guess my diffusing experiments will have to wait a week.
I received mine quickly as well. I haven’t used it. I ordered their blow dryer because I didn’t want to deal with looking for a compatible dryer elsewhere. But then I regretted buying the blow dryer because its so basic. They call it a “pro” dryer, but the only feature they advertise is that it has a cool shot button.
I reached out to them to figure out if the dryer had any benefits other than blowing hot air. I asked if it was ionic. They said it’s not. I then asked if they could send me info on the construction/drying mechanism. They sent me a pdf of the little slip that came in the box saying it has 3 speeds and a cool shot button. I then just decided to return it and asked for a return label. They told me to just keep it and refunded my order. So I got the dryer and the diffuser for free. I don’t know what I’m going to do with the dryer. I guess DH can use it.
Does anyone have the devafuser? Is it worth $50. My roots take forever to dry and it looks like it gets the roots better than the black orchid.
The longer and healthier my hair got the less inclined I was to wng everyday....and I'm *just* APL.
Daily washing works well in the summer and short hair offers a true wng experience cause you can air dry and keep it moving. With length comes a longer drying time and more effort towards the process.. I don't want to spend my time on my hair that often anymore.
My hair came out horribly today. I don’t know if it’s because
-I just had it dyed
- I used a new shampoo
- I used a blow dryer
Too many variables...
I'm over here trying to look cute and my hair wants to show out !!!! Really! Really!! I would do a clay mask WRONG for the first time ever the day before I go out of town!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm a salty poodle
I’m sorry that really sucks. How do you do a clay mask wrong?
It does suck!!
I added too much ACV and no water SMH! I think my hair actually prefers white vinegar, and that's what I've been using for the past 2 months. So I ended up clarifying my hair, and wasn't prepared to DC right after . My hair used to love clay masks before because my hair always had build up. Well now I ain't got no build up, so it just striped all of the moisture (and sebum) out of my hair
That’s good to know. I was planning on using ACV with clay instead of water next time. Now I’ll have to rethink that.
@metro_qt what kind of blow dryer do you use with your xtava diffuser? On amazon people said it fits on a BaByliss PRO nano titanium, but the diffuser is too small and if I take the plastic ring out of the diffuser then it’s too big. Arghhh!!!
Never mind. I got it to fit, I just had to use a lot of force. Phew!
I would definitely say to not eyeball it (like I did) and actually use some kind of recipe. I've used the clay with ACV plenty of times with no issue. This is the first time I've ever had a problem.
You can use ACV with clay but use water too. It works well and it smooths the clay out. But you only need a little ACV 1 to 3 tsp depending on how much clay you are using.
So I ordered the rhassoul clay and interestingly, it looked the same as when I last purchased it (I think year ago) but it behaved totally differently. It does not drink up the water and swell when I add water to it. And it also does not define my hair. I'm now wondering if I should order some more from another vendor or just give up on it for now.
During my research to come up with more moisturized wash and go's, I have discovered that it's actually my UFDCM that is making my hair rough and dry to the touch, not my Wet Line Xtreme gel as I previously thought. And I think that this is really very sad because UFDCM gives me the best definition ever and the most visually beautiful and shiny wash and go's. I don't know why my hair reacts this way to some popular gels such as UFDCM and CRN Curl Maker which everybody find to be moisturizing but they make my hair dryish and rough.
So I am now trying to come up with alternative combinations that do not contain my beloved gel. I am thinking that I can use the "UFDCM on KCKT" as a treatment to define my curls, just the way people use clay, then rinse it out and apply other products. I am now rediscovering the curl defining effects of water. So I add more water after I have applied all of my stylers and scrunch my hair until it squishes like seaweed. This enhances definition but adds a little bit of frizz that I can then smooth down with my hands. The problem is that squishing my hair creates big fat curl clumps which I don't like and will then have to break manually before I dry. Oh the struggle!
I have some new wash and go photos to share. Most of my hair is an old wash and go but the front is refreshed. I was trying to shoot some glam selfies
Anyways I think most of it is styled with my usual combo: KCKT, UFDCM and WXG
20190113_213044 by Alma Petra posted Jan 15, 2019 at 6:26 PM
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Your hair looks great! @Alma Petra
What does UFDCM stand for?
Where did you order from
I think any way you wear your curls it would be cute. You are adorable.
Thanks love! It's Uncle Funky's Daughter Curly Magic. I love this stuff Why did I have to associate myself with people who like to put their hands in my hair?!
Awww thank you Faith
I bought the clay from Amazon UK, from a vendor called Mystic Moments. I think I ordered from them before and the clay was great. I might try buying from someone else.
@Alma Petra how does the UFDCM compare to KCCC?
My hair is so dry and unhappy. I think I’ll do MHM on Friday hopefully it can recover. And I can try out my new diffuser. I think it’s going to take me a long time to learn how to get my hair to look good with the blow dryer. I think until then I may have to wear my hair up.
I really want to get my wash n go routine to the point where I don’t have to think about it and like the results.
UFDCM is much thinner than KCCC. It has a lemony smell that disappears quickly after application..
On my hair, I use it on top of KCKT. Initially it starts to curdle up a little with this leave-in but then they melt into each other. Together they draw a little bit of moisture from my curls but they clump the strands together, leave the curls super defined and kill the frizz. The combo has enough slip to allow shingling which is my preferred method for curl definition, and it separates and defines the curls from root to tip. Because I have tight curls I like to break the clumps into smaller ones and this stuff keeps the smaller clumps defined as well. If you add more UFDCM they foam up a bit and this can help even more. After I define my curls I usually add WXG. This provides hold to maintain the definition for a long time.
Over KCKT, KCCC has a higher tendency to curdle up, and less ability to define my curls. It's very very good but it's not magical. To make them melt into each other, I have to add more water and squish. This also helps enhance the definition. On the positive side, KCCC is more slippery than UFDCM and provides much more hold. It also smells nicer in my opinion. The biggest advantage though is that it dries soft, not rough like UFDCM. It leaves a cast but you can easily scrunch out the crunch. Obviously the rough crunch I'm referring to is not proportionate to hold because UFDCM does not provide a lot of hold. It's main advantage is the incredible definition and the quick drying time. It also dries very shiny and I don't worry about flakes when I use it with KCKT and WXG which is another advantage over KCCC. With KCCC and my other gels I have to be very careful in order to avoid flakes.
Is your hair dry immediately after styling? Or is it an old wash and go? The good news is that every time you do a wash and go, you learn something new and you get closer to perfecting your routine. But there will almost always be some room for improvement.
Regarding moisture, my tricks are to avoid products that my hair find drying weather these are shampoos or cowashes. I even go as far as assessing my hair before wash day, if there isn't a lot of build up, I opt to water wash and avoid cowashing.. My hair loves it when I scrunch cool water into it over and over until it's truly saturated and plump. Then I scrunch the extra water out and add my stylers. The next trick would be to use a good leave in and avoid any stylers that my hair find to be drying. I think a nice combo for moisture could be CRN Moisture Milk and KCCC. If you can seal with a little bit of oil or butter without causing frizz, that would be great too.
This is just now. This is was done on water washed hair. The curls were already defined from previous WnGs with KCKT and UFDCM. I used KCKT, KCCC and WXG on the front, and CRN moisture milk, KCCC and WXG on the back. And did a lot of squishing with added water to enhance definition. Because of the water, I think my curls look slightly bigger and thicker than usual.
So far my hair is soft to the touch. I'll see about that and about the hold and flaking tomorrow morning.
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@Alma Petra thanks for your detailed comparison of KCCC and UFDCM. That’s was really helpful.
I think my hair is super dry because I had it dyed last week and then I used kinky curly come clean to shampoo and I used a blow dryer. I think that was all too much in a short period of time (3 days). That’s why I’m planning to do MHM this weekend and get it back to where it was before dyeing.