Relaxed Hair Thread

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  1. trini-chutney

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    Hi Ladies, I’m so happy I got back on here and found this thread!

    I just finished combing out my tailbone length locs and am about to relax next Wednesday. After having locs for years I really needed a change, wash day was getting out of control plus I reached my goal length.

    I’m looking forward to frequent faster wash days.

    Do you ladies have any recommendations for high porosity relaxed hair?
     
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    Hi!:wave:
    Welcome back!
    Congratulations on reaching your goal — that’s awesome!

    About Hi-Po: My regi consists primarily of ayurvedic mixes so I can’t personally recommend any products. However, I’ve found the cheapies Suave Tropical Coconut conditioner and Queen Helene cholesterol conditioner to be the best bases for my mixes.

    I’ve also seen many hi-po ladies recommend French Perm Stabilizer, lots of protein, ceramides, cool water final rinse and avoiding humectants.

    Here are a few threads that may have some useful info:

    https://longhaircareforum.com/threads/high-porosity-hair-support-thread.720301/

    https://longhaircareforum.com/threads/spinoff-high-porosity-hair.614991/

    https://longhaircareforum.com/threads/the-type-4-high-porosity-hangout.799265/
     
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    Thank you! I got sucked into a few of the Ayurvedic threads last night lol. I’m trying to pace myself and not splurge on every clay. What are your favorite Ayurvedic products? Has your hair always been hi-po or did relaxing change it or even help it?
     
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    I'm just seeing this.
    Yes, I just add the same amount of oil to my relaxer. So I try to use the same relaxer. Even then, its never exactly the same texture but it's close enough.
     
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  5. MzSwift

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    Yeah, ayurveda changed my life. I think I posted all the stuff I do on the last page, it's too long to repost. LOL. But I use shikakai and neem for cleansing; henna/cassia, brahmi and amla for conditioning; hibiscus for moisturizing conditioning; and bhringaraj for scalp oils and massages. I credit the powders for every strand of hair left on my head after years of neglect. Lol

    Actually, I have no idea if I'm really Hi-Po. Lol. Like with with my profession and parenting, I approach my hair with a "meet them where they are" approach. I do what works for my hair and I try not to change anything up unless I need to. When I was natural,my hair didn't fit the characteristics of neither hi-po nor lo-po. But now, it definitely does dry really quickly. It's hard to tell whether or not I'm hi-po because I incorporate protein regularly, which helps with moisture retention.

    Is your hair hi-po now, as a natural? Are you worried that it'll become hi-po because of the chemical?
     
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  6. MzSwift

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    It seems like white vinegar has been better for my hair while relaxing than ACV. Once I finish this bottle of ACV, I'm gonna stop buying it.
     
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    I just checked out your post, thank you for this helpful info!

    I’ve always been hi-po natural or relaxed but one of my hopes is that being relaxed will help me to keep my strands from constantly webbing and knotting due to them being so rough. And also make it easier to distribute and maintain moisture regularly.
     
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  8. MzSwift

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    So I found this lady’s relaxer routine to be very interesting. I would probably do more neutralizing steps but I think it would also help me to get rid of that fresh relaxer smell.

    Has anyone ever tried doing a moisturizing cowash along with the midstep protein? What would be the drawback of doing this? I would think infusing moisture and protein back into the strands before closing the cuticles would be useful.

     
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    Girl she ended up with bald spots. She never used neutralizing shampoo. She wasn’t using shampoo period. Just cowashing.
     
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    :eek::eek:

    How in 2019 is this still happening!? :nono:

    I mean even when I was getting relaxed as a teenager I knew the importance of neutralizer.
     
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    She was doing that a couple of years back. Hopefully she has changed her process and platform
     
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  12. MzSwift

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    :lachen: @Evolving78

    Thanks sis. That’s exactly what I was thinking. How does she have all of that hair still on her head after only neutralizing once?!
     
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    How many of you guys regularly air dry and does it work for you as a drying method?
     
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    Honestly, if I airdry on loose hair, my hair feels very rough when dry. It is overall, soft and fluffy but my individual strands feel rough. The only way my strands feel soft and smooth are when I airdry with tension. I tried wet wrapping but it was way too much manipulation. If I airdry in a knot bun, bantu knots, braids or cornrows, my hair feels better.

    I cant get a straight, smooth style when airdrying. I think I’m gonna stick to using a hot air brush and then wrapping my hair.
     
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    Also, next time I relax, I’m definitely gonna try throwing in a moisturizing cowash after I relax next time.
     
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    I find I have to mix things up. I air dry for a few weeks then I move to a bit of heat, be it roller setting, blow drying or my hot brush, then I will revert back to air drying.

    When I air dry I feel like I need to to use a lot of product for my hair to look and feel moisturised. My first day hair will be great, nice a straight and smooth, but the second day hair needs a bit of help. I like how my hair feels when I air dry but, I don't stick religiously to it. My hair seems to do well with a bit of heat so I indulge now and again. The balance seems to be working.
     
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    That sounds like a good routine - alternating.
     
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    Yay! So I think I've found a way to wear my hair "out" that is low mani. I put my hair into one braid that is very loose base - so the actual braid starts about 3-4 inches from the scalp. I oiled the end, rolled it and secured with a small ponytail holder. I sleep like that with a scarf. The loose braid gives me the option to wear a high, middle or low braided ponytail/bun without having to take the braid down. I just brush back my edges with either my hands a comb and secure into a ponytail/bun with another ponytail holder

    I'll see if this works out for a couple of weeks. Because I was seriously struggling with wanting to put in mini braids or a crochet style. I rarely wear my hair loose but I could probably take the braid down for loose waves if we have an impromptu date night.
     
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    I regularly air dry in a single plait/braid or mini ponytails, about 5 or 6. I let my hair dry to 90-100% and then I go back and moisturize and seal. And yes, it works great for me.
     
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    I air dry consistently. While my hair is about half dry, I moisturize and then seal with shea butter. When it's all dry its soft and full. I don't like limp looking hair. But I don't mind it not looking straight.
     
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    I've been airdrying for years and my hair loves it.

    Here's how I do it: How I Airdry
     
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    Gathering all my relaxer supplies to relax today. :yep:
     
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    Thanks for sharing this @sunnieb ! Now I wanna do a bantu knot out. Lol
     
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    Relaxed today at seven weeks post. Did protein mid-step, neutralized, French perm, acv rinse and dc w/ heat.
     
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    Relaxed yesterday and loving my hair and length retention! I actually wore my hair in a flexi8 pony today! :grin:

    I remember being bald back there a year ago, so my growth rate is pretty good.

    I will probably be able to claim SL by the fall. I know I'll trim sometime this week so a lil bit of this length will be gone. However, in the long run my hair is going to be fabulous once I grow it out again.
     
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    @Wenbev Have you (or anyone) ever not done the mid-relaxer protein step? If so, did you notice a difference in your hair?

    I still do it because of Sistaslick's advice, but I've just been wondering about it lately.
     
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    @sunnieb I’ve been doing it for maybe the last 3-4 relaxers. And the acv has only maybe been the last 2-3ish. I immediately noticed a difference in my hair as I was washing out the two step. Weirdly enough, it felt stronger and here were no hairs in the drain. Adding the acv after the neutralizer is a game changer to me. My hair felt thick. The first time I used ACV, I did it prior to neutralizing but the funky smell I didn’t like. So all others have been after neutralizing.
    I have very thin strands but a lot of density and a big head. :look: I can fake thickness when my hair is out but but it in a ponytail and you can see the thinness.
     
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    I stopped doing the protein mid step. I now do it immediately following my neutralizing steps. I felt like the midstep made my telaxer results less straight. But I understand the importance of restoring protein after a relaxer so I do it after washing out all of the relaxer.

    Also, it could be the product I’m using for protein that could be the problem. My beloved Motions CPR has been MIA so I’ve been using Joico KPak rconstructor which feels like it is stronger than CPR. So my hair feels terrible when I use it pre-neutralizing.

    A long time ago when I used Optimum No Lye, it included a pre-neutralizing conditioner and my results were just fine. I didn’t know better then about whether or not it was protein, moisture or both. Does anyone know?
     
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    Yeah, my hair is going back into a PS... SMH, Lol.

    Trying to figure out what type of crochet hair to install.
     
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