GettingKinky
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How good are the sales at Nordstroms/Sephora?
Wash And Go, To Grow And To Dazzle 2020 Challenge
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GettingKinky
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This weekend to combat my hair boredom I’m going to use Inner Peace as a 2nd topper.
toaster
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At Sephora is depends on what level you are, but I can count on 20% off at least twice a year. Nordstrom it seems totally random, but I have caught briogeo on sale there. Maybe 15%?
oneastrocurlie
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Almost back to pre cut lengths!
GettingKinky
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Thanks. I never really paid attention and decided to take a look again at AG. Then I saw those products. They have a wait list but didn’t say they were new.
I finally got around to doing my aunts hair. She initially told me she didn’t have a curl pattern and that her hair broke every time she combed it. The wash and go I did on her hair proved otherwise. I also took all of her combs away from her. Turns out she has been detangling her from the roots down.
I offered to do her hair weekly for the next month or two. So I will be putting my Dyson to good use. By the end of that time, she should have all the proper tools, products and techniques to start doing her hair herself.
For the first wng I used the typical BGC recommendations. They were not heavy on her hair at all.
I offered to do her hair weekly for the next month or two. So I will be putting my Dyson to good use. By the end of that time, she should have all the proper tools, products and techniques to start doing her hair herself.
For the first wng I used the typical BGC recommendations. They were not heavy on her hair at all.
The Mielle Pom & Honey leave-in + mousse gave me baby soft hair. My hair felt like fiberfill and had lots of volume. Over the course of few days my hair grew really big. By the time I washed, I had a curly defined fro. My only issue was that my hair looked matte. It was matte when wet and proceeded to dry matte.
Tuesday evening I used the Mielle Pom & Honey custard. For the first time I sat under a dryer with it alone. I learned several things.
First, it air dries completely different than sitting under a hooded dryer. It fully dries down when air drying. The hood dryer results kept reactivating in the humidity.
Second, I need to use much less when sitting under a dryer. I had parts where it was too gunky. I never had that issue air drying.
I re-washed my hair when I got off of work around 4. I couldn’t take having gummy feeling hair. This time I used Pattern Curling Gel. I decided to air dry. It’s taken nearly 3 hours for the whiteness of the lotiony gel to go away. Its still about 30% damp. It’s fluffy yet defined with a soft sheen. I have volume too.
I might hop under this dryer or diffuse if it’s not dry in the next hour or two.
Tuesday evening I used the Mielle Pom & Honey custard. For the first time I sat under a dryer with it alone. I learned several things.
First, it air dries completely different than sitting under a hooded dryer. It fully dries down when air drying. The hood dryer results kept reactivating in the humidity.
Second, I need to use much less when sitting under a dryer. I had parts where it was too gunky. I never had that issue air drying.
I re-washed my hair when I got off of work around 4. I couldn’t take having gummy feeling hair. This time I used Pattern Curling Gel. I decided to air dry. It’s taken nearly 3 hours for the whiteness of the lotiony gel to go away. Its still about 30% damp. It’s fluffy yet defined with a soft sheen. I have volume too.
I might hop under this dryer or diffuse if it’s not dry in the next hour or two.
oneastrocurlie
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Ulta has it listed and available for purchase.
Hmm, I was inside of Ulta yesterday. My not so local Ulta doesn’t seem to carry much. Or is only online?
GettingKinky
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My UFD from the Labor Day sale just arrived. I’m really tempted to open one and see if the new formula behaves the same as the old formula, but I just opened a bottle a few weeks ago so I don’t need to open another.
They are making a big deal about being carried by more stores. I wonder if they changed the formula to make it cheaper to manufacture?
They are making a big deal about being carried by more stores. I wonder if they changed the formula to make it cheaper to manufacture?
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GGsKin
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@GettingKinky The way the story is coming across, the formula (with glycerine added) has been changed for some time, and its the labeling that wasn't up to date. So in theory, the products in the old and new labels should be the same. Not worth cracking into your new bottle.
discodumpling
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I rarely have wash n go fails anymore. I waited 2 years while the Doux got popular before I used it and honestly I should have kept my coins in my pocket!
The Doux, does not doux it for me. Sure it looked good immediately after applying the foam and the gel. But my curls were not set and I knew this was going to be a one day set at best.
My hair felt soft. Too soft & tacky. Not quite greasy, slightly sticky to the touch but not the clean feel I like.
This morning my hair is giving undefined Frederick Douglas realness!
I'm going to wash condition and reset with Eco Styler ASAP!
The Doux, does not doux it for me. Sure it looked good immediately after applying the foam and the gel. But my curls were not set and I knew this was going to be a one day set at best.
My hair felt soft. Too soft & tacky. Not quite greasy, slightly sticky to the touch but not the clean feel I like.
This morning my hair is giving undefined Frederick Douglas realness!
I'm going to wash condition and reset with Eco Styler ASAP!
Back in February, a few of you mentioned using diffusers. I don’t know what took me so long, but I finally bought a diffuser attachment, and I used it for the first time on my daughter’s hair so that she wouldn’t sleep with soaking wet hair. I used low speed, cool temperature setting after styling with a homemade shea mixture, probably not more than 10-15 of non-continuous blow drying with the diffuser. I looked through a few YouTube videos to see how others use diffusers, and most of the videos I saw mentioned using heat protectant. My question is, do you use heat protectant when you use the diffuser for your wash & go, and if so, what heat protectant do you use? I avoid silicone products except when straightening; the heat protectants the YouTube ladies used had silicone.
According to some stylists, using a diffuser is like using a hooded dryer. The diffuser diffuses the heat and it’s impact is about as much as being outside in the heat with wind gently blowing. There should be no need for a heat protectant.
The extra cautious (consumers) tend to use low settings and heat protectants. Your results may very using a diffuser on low speed and cool setting. You probably wont get salon result doing that with or without a heat protectant. I guess if you felt comfortable cranking up the heat, you could go ahead and use a heat protectant.
Also, you can always look for silicone free alternative heat protectants.
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oneastrocurlie
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No heat protectant for me
GettingKinky
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@yamilee21 I use high heat when I diffuse but I don’t use heat protectant. Since it’s indirect heat I’m not overly concerned. I’ve been doing this for almost 2 years now and I haven’t noticed any issues.
This is what I was thinking; I was surprised at the mention of heat protectant on YouTube. I didn’t know whether they were being overly cautious or if it were common. I’ve never used heat protectant with hooded dryers, though I have used it for blow-drying and flat-ironing in recent years.
GGsKin
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@yamilee21 I don't use heat protector when I diffuse. I guess the heat is not as direct than straight blowdrying (i see what happened there 
), and I'm less worried because I am not manipulating my hair during the process.
), and I'm less worried because I am not manipulating my hair during the process.
GettingKinky
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I’ve started using plain aloe vera gel to slick back my puffs. It seems to work well. Maybe better than MD foam.
I’m going to admit, I’m becoming a sample product junky only because I’m in search for something specific. I’m realizing that what I’m searching for is probably going to be a combo.
The base needs to be lightweight with slip. It also has to clump my curls together without the super frizzy look. The topper needs to be also lightweight, but has shine, hold and maybe dries fast. It would be great if the cast can easily be scrunched out too. That would make it the ultimate combo to have soft voluminous hair that is shiny and defined.
I’ve recently seen a few YouTubers having similar complaints about products being too heavy, but everything else is good. Then the lightweight ones barely giving what one needs. Most of the time the solution was to pair multiple lightweight products. I usually see leave-in and mousse topped with a lightweight gel.
Hopefully this theory works or I’m back to looking for one and dones. Now I know how Goldilocks felt. I just want my “just right.”
The base needs to be lightweight with slip. It also has to clump my curls together without the super frizzy look. The topper needs to be also lightweight, but has shine, hold and maybe dries fast. It would be great if the cast can easily be scrunched out too. That would make it the ultimate combo to have soft voluminous hair that is shiny and defined.
I’ve recently seen a few YouTubers having similar complaints about products being too heavy, but everything else is good. Then the lightweight ones barely giving what one needs. Most of the time the solution was to pair multiple lightweight products. I usually see leave-in and mousse topped with a lightweight gel.
Hopefully this theory works or I’m back to looking for one and dones. Now I know how Goldilocks felt. I just want my “just right.”
Here is a quick review of Pattern Beauty.
Hydrating Shampoo
-super sudsy
-detangling
-cleans hair well
-feels like an all purpose shampoo
Lightweight Conditioner
-great slip
-rinses well from the hair
-leaves hair feeling slick without being coated
Leave-in
-thick but transparent
-has slip
-does light clumping
Curl Gel
- looks like a lotion
- has great slip
- fluffy definition
- extreme matte look
- hair feels soft and as if no product is on hair
- super lightweight
- gives big hair
Strong Hold Gel
-dries mostly matte but random parts look greasy
-feels super dry yet coated
-shrinks hair
-light weight
-hair looks dirty
The smell is nothing special. I barely smell the rose. I get more neroli and patchouli. It smells like hair lotion or a hotel shampoo and conditioner set. The curl gel leaves more of a scent than the other products. It lingers with a clean slightly sweet smell.
Hydrating Shampoo
-super sudsy
-detangling
-cleans hair well
-feels like an all purpose shampoo
Lightweight Conditioner
-great slip
-rinses well from the hair
-leaves hair feeling slick without being coated
Leave-in
-thick but transparent
-has slip
-does light clumping
Curl Gel
- looks like a lotion
- has great slip
- fluffy definition
- extreme matte look
- hair feels soft and as if no product is on hair
- super lightweight
- gives big hair
Strong Hold Gel
-dries mostly matte but random parts look greasy
-feels super dry yet coated
-shrinks hair
-light weight
-hair looks dirty
The smell is nothing special. I barely smell the rose. I get more neroli and patchouli. It smells like hair lotion or a hotel shampoo and conditioner set. The curl gel leaves more of a scent than the other products. It lingers with a clean slightly sweet smell.
Here is another wash and go product review. The CurlMix system is actually nice, but I’ve only ever done the reverse wng. It gives my curls a light cripsiness that can easily be scrunched away. Also, it gives moderate volume.
The teal system in watermelon stinks to me. It’s akin to a fruity scented Nair or rotting fruit without sourness. It smells nice once dry when the wind is blowing through the hair or scratching scalp. I HATE using any part of the system because of the smell. It can easily create a stink bomb when mixing with other highly fragranced products outside of the brand.
The shampoo (step 1) is a strong AP. I’m not impressed by it but it’s not bad. The conditioner (step 2) is nice. It has tons of slip and leaves the hair feeling slick and looking shiny. When I say slick, I mean the cuticles feel smoothed down.
Putting the moisturizer (step 3) on top of the flaxseed gel (step 4) results in mild curdling but it quickly disappears in the hair. I understand BGC use of botanical gels as a base, however CurlMix’s flaxseed gel is not the product providing slip or curl clumping. Instead, it’s the moisturizer that does all of the work.
One of these days I’m going to try it the regular way. Then I can lightly glaze the flaxseed gel over it and get even softer hair. If I ever repurchase, I will be buying the unscented. I am curious about the other fragrances, but I don’t want to take that chance.
The teal system in watermelon stinks to me. It’s akin to a fruity scented Nair or rotting fruit without sourness. It smells nice once dry when the wind is blowing through the hair or scratching scalp. I HATE using any part of the system because of the smell. It can easily create a stink bomb when mixing with other highly fragranced products outside of the brand.
The shampoo (step 1) is a strong AP. I’m not impressed by it but it’s not bad. The conditioner (step 2) is nice. It has tons of slip and leaves the hair feeling slick and looking shiny. When I say slick, I mean the cuticles feel smoothed down.
Putting the moisturizer (step 3) on top of the flaxseed gel (step 4) results in mild curdling but it quickly disappears in the hair. I understand BGC use of botanical gels as a base, however CurlMix’s flaxseed gel is not the product providing slip or curl clumping. Instead, it’s the moisturizer that does all of the work.
One of these days I’m going to try it the regular way. Then I can lightly glaze the flaxseed gel over it and get even softer hair. If I ever repurchase, I will be buying the unscented. I am curious about the other fragrances, but I don’t want to take that chance.
GettingKinky
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I timed myself today
0:15 shampoo 2x, condition, detangle
0:25 wash body, rinse conditioner, apply 3 stylers, style
0:10 diffuse
1:04 from get in shower to ready to leave the house (hair, wash body, wash face, apply face products, makeup, get dressed)
Today’s products
Shampoo Color radiance/Elucence
Conditioner color radiance
Stylers UFD/ICH/IP
0:15 shampoo 2x, condition, detangle
0:25 wash body, rinse conditioner, apply 3 stylers, style
0:10 diffuse
1:04 from get in shower to ready to leave the house (hair, wash body, wash face, apply face products, makeup, get dressed)
Today’s products
Shampoo Color radiance/Elucence
Conditioner color radiance
Stylers UFD/ICH/IP
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